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Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by bb88 on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @10:12PM (#45206906)
He doesn't say that. You're editorializing on his behalf.

Here's the full quote. He's fully aware of violence cause by mental illness and domestic terrorism.

>> You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death. That is nonsense. It's drivel. But I am, I, I — I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe.

>> So then, how do you reduce? Very simple. People say, oh, Charlie, how do you stop school shootings? I don't know. How did we stop shootings at baseball games? Because we have armed guards outside of baseball games. That's why. How did we stop all the shootings at airports? We have armed guards outside of airports. How do we stop all the shootings at banks? We have armed guards outside of banks. How did we stop all the shootings at gun shows? Notice there's not a lot of mass shootings at gun shows, there's all these guns. Because everyone's armed. If our money and our sporting events and our airplanes have armed guards, why don't our children?

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by LexiMax on Thursday September 11, 2025 @12:01AM (#45207651)
According to social media, these were his last words:

Audience member: "Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?"

Kirk: "Too many."

The same audience member went on say the number is five, and proceeded to ask if Kirk knows how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years.

Kirk: "Counting or not counting gang violence? The answer is 5700."

Maybe I'm missing some context, but it seems to me like Charlie might have had a few ideas about who should and shouldn't have guns.

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by kanbara on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @10:28PM (#45207025)
it's such an insane american belief that the answer to safety is not: reduce gun amounts, reduce what guns people can buy, improve mental health counseling, improve healthcare, improve quality of life through cheaper housing and well-paying jobs, but instead the copout which doesn't even work--adding armed police outside of every school.

uvalde called, it doesn't work. and the rest of the world looks on in shame at this exceptionally american and exceptionally cruel system.

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by bb88 on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @11:05PM (#45207251)
To be fair, it wasn't just Uvalde.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Scot_Peterson

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/parkland-shooting-verdi...

We assume that the police will come to the rescue for all situations, but the fact is, they're human too.

This is typically different than the pro-gun mantra of "The best defense from a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."

He was clearly a good guy. But he didn't want to die.

Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah by zahlman on Wednesday September 17, 2025 @11:08AM (#45276777)
GP reads to me like a fair summary of a natural, charitable reading of the quote.