Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah
by pjc50 on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @05:12PM
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The second amendment people basically argue that the entire purpose of the 2A is to enable the assassination of politicians you don't like.
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Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah
by christophilus on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @05:52PM
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I don’t doubt you’ve heard someone argue that, but I never have. I’ve always heard it as a right to defense, generally as in a right to defend yourself from oppressive authorities. I never took that to mean assassinations as much as militia actions against militaries.
You can argue whether or not that is an effective approach to securing freedom, but that’s the argument I’m most familiar with.
Re:Charlie Kirk shot at event in Utah
by delecti on Wednesday September 10, 2025 @06:28PM
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The 2A people couch it in metaphor and implication, but "we need guns to stop tyranny" is fundamentally saying that tyrants ought be shot. We can argue whether the semantics of whether death in battle counts as murder, but I think that's just quibbling over the definition of "assassination".
More of a distinction without a difference. Once you get to that situation, you've legitimized murder; now we see what that looks like.
"Militia" action against "military"? Neither side will bother with the scruples of waiting for the enemy to put on a uniform and pick up a weapon. It will be death squads vs car bombs.