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Re:ICE Is Using Fake Cell Towers to Spy on People's Phones by JohnMakin on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @03:20PM (#45187339)
The thing that annoys me most is not the callousness - it’s the extremely short sighted opinion that the same tactics won’t eventually be used on them, or people they care about. It never even occurs to them that can happen until it does.

Erosion of anyone’s rights is an erosion of everyone’s rights.

Re:ICE Is Using Fake Cell Towers to Spy on People's Phones by bloomingeek on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @03:34PM (#45187552)
Absolutely, we older types used to argue with the term, "slippery slope". ICE is a classic slippery slope that will most likely be used, eventually, against all of us if the current administration isn't stopped breaking the law.
Re:ICE Is Using Fake Cell Towers to Spy on People's Phones by xp84 on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @03:46PM (#45187730)
That is so absurd. No, Immigration isn't going to be sent door to door to do something bad to citizens. Under any circumstances. This is absolute hysteria.

Sure, the "right wing" disagrees with you on some topics, but the partisan brainrot has truly got you if you think federal agents are going to be used to harm "all of us" just because checks notes they're presently forcing a fraction of the people with zero legal right to be in this country, to go home.

Re:ICE Is Using Fake Cell Towers to Spy on People's Phones by fzeroracer on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @03:56PM (#45187868)
The Supreme Court literally just signed off on doing just this based off of racially profiling people. Trump has threatened to deport even some of his biggest sycophants like Elon Musk. They've been harassing people that DO have a legal basis to be in the country and finding ways to deport them anyways. Hell, they've even admitted, openly, to looking for avenues to denaturalize people so that they can be deported.

This isn't 'partisan brainrot', this is literally and explicitly what they are saying and doing.

Re:ICE Is Using Fake Cell Towers to Spy on People's Phones by zephharben on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @04:46PM (#45188774)
Wanting our government to treat our neighbors like human beings rather than vermin is not "partisan brainrot", it is actually a clear-eyed reaction to both the current circumstances, and human history over the last 90 years.

Signed, a Jew with a personal background in these matters.

Re:ICE Is Using Fake Cell Towers to Spy on People's Phones by cruano on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @05:09PM (#45189179)
What do you think "Homegrowns are next" means exactly ?
Re:ICE Is Using Fake Cell Towers to Spy on People's Phones by anecdatas on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @05:20PM (#45189356)
> No, Immigration isn't going to be sent door to door to do something bad to citizens.

You've got a whole lot of history to read. Because this is exactly what has happened in the past. You don't think this has happened to the Romans? The Russians? The Italians? The Germans? The Spanish?

This is a classic maneuver of a state sliding into autocracy -- if you cannot find enemies outside the state, you find them within the state. Go read Umberto Eco's Ur-Fascism then come back.

Re:ICE Is Using Fake Cell Towers to Spy on People's Phones by meesles on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @05:32PM (#45189513)
I would point out that as of 3 years ago, green card holders felt completely safe in their legality as long as they were not committing crimes. This has now changed.

The balance has already slid and change that people never expected has happened. Assuming it won't happen more is foolish IMO.

There's also been recent talk about going after 'recently naturalized' individuals the admin considers criminals. How many years is 'recently'?

Re:ICE Is Using Fake Cell Towers to Spy on People's Phones by autoexec on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @05:38PM (#45189598)
You realize that US-born American citizens are already being rounded up, kept prisoner, sent deportation letters, etc.
Re:ICE Is Using Fake Cell Towers to Spy on People's Phones by brewtide on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @08:37PM (#45191594)
This 100%. It's like a private army is being built, especially with the masks/secrecy aspects of it. Terrifying.
Re:ICE Is Using Fake Cell Towers to Spy on People's Phones by bloomingeek on Tuesday September 09, 2025 @10:06PM (#45192222)
ICE and the use of the National Guard is very terrifying. The current administration could use them both to try to hold onto power when it terms out. The lunacy of SCOTUS and congress is beyond the pale. If, and I do mean if, the Epstein situation blows up on the big orange dummy, no one should doubt he will try to declare some type of marshall law to stay above the law. Then we will find out if the National Guard members really pledged allegiance to the Constitution.