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Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by leoc on Saturday September 06, 2025 @01:36PM (#45151277)
Well, it's more like sensor fusion plus extensive human remote intervention, it seems: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/09/03/technology/zo... . Mind you, if it takes both LiDAR and call-centre workers to make self-driving work in 2025 and for the foreseeable future, that makes Tesla's old ambition to achieve it with neither look all the more hopeless.
Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by ra7 on Saturday September 06, 2025 @01:49PM (#45151388)
Tesla robotaxis have teleoperation [1], which is worse than remote assistance others use because the operators have direct control. Yet they cannot fully remove safety personnel from the car.

The old ambition is dead.

[1] https://electrek.co/2025/05/16/tesla-robotaxi-fleet-powered-...

Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by Narciss on Saturday September 06, 2025 @06:41PM (#45153577)
V interesting, thanks for sharing, I didn’t know this