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Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by ra7 on Saturday September 06, 2025 @12:41PM (#45150777)
$200 to enable better FSD vs a decade of struggle to get FSD only partially working with $20 cameras. Which one do you think is more expensive overall?
Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by weinzierl on Saturday September 06, 2025 @02:02PM (#45151478)
The fact that we still do not have a significant number of cars with LIDAR on our streets somewhat proves which approach the auto industry considers viable for business.

I am much more curious about the next ten years. If we can bring down the cost of a LIDAR unit into parity with camera systems[1], I think I know the answer. But I thought that 10 years ago and it did not happen so I wonder what is the real roadblock to make LIDAR cheap.

[1] Which it won't replace, of course. What it will change is that it makes the LIDAR a regular component, not an exceptionally expensive component.

Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by xnx on Monday September 08, 2025 @06:59AM (#45166820)
The fact that the only working self driving system uses LIDAR might say even more.
Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by xnx on Monday September 08, 2025 @06:57AM (#45166804)
1) make it work

2) make it right

3) make it fast (or cheap in this case)

Elon thinks his genius intellect allows him to skip to #3.