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Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by sandworm101 on Saturday September 06, 2025 @08:50AM (#45148838)
Solid objects that arent too dark or too shiny. Lidar is very bad at detecing mirrored surfaces or non-reflecting structures that absorb the paticular frequency in use. The back ends of trucks hauling liquid are paticularly bad. Block out the bumper/wheels, say by a slight hill, and that polished cone is invisible to lidar.
Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by bayindirh on Saturday September 06, 2025 @09:19AM (#45149046)
Add one or a couple of RADAR(s), too. European cars use this one weird trick to enable tons of features without harming people or cars.
Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by UltraSane on Saturday September 06, 2025 @09:41AM (#45149195)
LIDAR works be measuring the time it takes for light to return so I don't understand how a object can be too reflective. Objects that absorb the specific wavelength the LIDAR uses is an obvious problem.
Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by sandworm101 on Saturday September 06, 2025 @10:09AM (#45149392)
Too reflective, like a flat mirror, will send the light off in a random direction rather than back as the detector. Worse yet, things like double reflections can result in timing errors as some of the signal follows a longer path. You want a target that is nicely reflective but not so shiny that you get any double reflections. The ideal is a matte surface painted the same color as the laser.
Re:Tesla changes meaning of 'Full Self-Driving', gives up on... by UltraSane on Saturday September 06, 2025 @10:21AM (#45149490)
Ah it relies on diffuse reflections to guarantee some light returns to the sensor but specular reflections mean none is returned.

This is a good example of why sensor fusion is good.