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Re:A computer upgrade has shut down BART by novok on Friday September 05, 2025 @05:00PM (#45143545)
I've heard that makes procurement way more difficult, you can't just order a train car in the standard gauge from many manufacturers. It's like big and tall sizing, yes, any place can make it, but there just isn't that large volume to create a liquid market.
Re:A computer upgrade has shut down BART by kelnos on Friday September 05, 2025 @05:36PM (#45143922)
But is this a problem that can account of the day-to-day difficulties of managing and using BART? Yes, procuring new train cars is more difficult (and likely more expensive), but BART has lots of other problems to tackle.
Re:A computer upgrade has shut down BART by nradov on Friday September 05, 2025 @06:12PM (#45144266)
The problem isn't just the rolling stock. Everything in BART is at least somewhat custom including control systems and software. Very little can be shared with public transit systems in other metro areas so there are no economies of scale. Thus BART has to do a lot in house or depend on a limited set of specialized vendors at great expense.

If you had to buy a special car to be allowed to drive on Bay Area roads because they weren't the same as the roads in Chicago or Boston then a Honda Civic would cost $1M.

Re:A computer upgrade has shut down BART by rahimnathwani on Friday September 05, 2025 @08:15PM (#45145245)

  then a Honda Civic would cost $1M.
For $1M you could build a single San Francisco Cable Car. Plus it's built locally.
Re:A computer upgrade has shut down BART by bluGill on Saturday September 06, 2025 @08:35AM (#45148747)
A cable car is a lot simpler than a civic - the complex parts are in the engine house elsewhere. the cable car is bigger but it has no engine, transmission and other such parts