This is a good example of the Apple cultist. Other products get panned all the time as only being incremental but nobody waxes lyrically about the "real people who take real pride in what they do" and how saying that "the sentiment you just expressed was deeply hurtful, and, in fact wrong". Deeply hurtful? Are you serious? It's a luxury product from a corporation which will do anything from driving manufacturing workers in China into suicide to suing people over bogus patents, get over yourself and your devotion to a legal entity.
Deeply hurtful? Are you serious?
The implication being that employees who work at corporations that make luxury goods don't have feelings worth considering?
If you are deeply hurt by a consumer having a negative opinion of your consumer product, perhaps you should change industries.
It's not just a negative opinion, it's what this community decided to vote to the top as of my original response. That's kind of mean spirited.
"Not impressive" is "mean spirited"? Give me a break... It is barely even negative.
If you say so.
Re:iPhone 5
by redthrowaway on Wednesday September 12, 2012 @06:10PM
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Sorry, but they're being judged by their own marketing, not by objective qualities. This really isn't "the biggest thing to happen to iPhone since iPhone", it's more of an iPhone 4SS. That doesn't mean that it's not a fine phone, but their marketing invites judgement on a scale their product can't live up to.
I thought the "the biggest thing to happen to iPhone" tagline is a pretty cute pun referring to the increased physical height until I read this thread. Seems like I'm the only one thinking that. Oh well, tagline done terribly, I guess.
I thought so too, then I saw that the marketing department decided to then prattle on about reductions in height and weight. They also show the phone side-on and there's no physical comparison to the earlier model showing the larger screen. The message wasn't very clear, and seemed to contradict itself.
In fact, it seems to be a play on words that the 'biggest change is the fact that it's so thin' and not the 'biggest change is the biggest screen'.
Re:iPhone 5
by redthrowaway on Wednesday September 12, 2012 @07:41PM
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That's actually a good insight, but I doubt it's what they were going for with that tagline as it's just not obvious.
Re:iPhone 5
by donniezazen on Wednesday September 12, 2012 @06:39PM
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He is upset because he doesn't like it and you are upset because you like it. You are just trying to take a higher moral grounds. logical fallacy
Actually the comment about shit slinging falls outside of the logical point I was trying to make, which is that there are indeed things here to be impressed with that he omitted from his list. No moral high ground.
You know what? Just like any startup that posts here, Apple is filled with real people who take real pride in what they do, and I can imagine that for any of the thousands of folks who worked really hard on designing this product and manufactured to absurdly low variances, the sentiment you just expressed was deeply hurtful, and, in fact, wrong. There's a lot to be impressed by here. Lots of tiny details that aren't captured on a feature checklist.
If you don't like it, don't buy it. Don't sling shit publicly on their announcement day because your pet features weren't included (1).
1) http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4357133