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Re:Rivian CEO: 'blows my mind' to see US auto makers shiftin... by aurareturn on Thursday September 04, 2025 @06:16AM (#45125582)
It is hardly surprising given these facts:

1. US is the largest oil producer country in the world

2. US knows it has lost the EV race

3. ICE employees have an outsized impact on elections due to where they live

Re:Rivian CEO: 'blows my mind' to see US auto makers shiftin... by pengaru on Thursday September 04, 2025 @09:33AM (#45127103)
> 1. US is the largest oil producer country in the world

[citation needed]

Here's mine, Saudi Arabia is by far the largest exporter:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_expor...

Perhaps you're confusing oil production with refined petroleum (e.g. gasoline) exports?

Edit: Thanks for the correction, looks like for the last 8 or so years US has indeed occupied the top slot for production:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EIA_Oil_Production.png

Re:Rivian CEO: 'blows my mind' to see US auto makers shiftin... by aw1621107 on Thursday September 04, 2025 @09:39AM (#45127172)
> Here's mine, Saudi Arabia is by far the largest exporter:

I think it's not unreasonable to think that "producer" means "producer", not "exporter". Wikipedia has a nominally matching article [0], which indeed lists the US as the largest producer of crude oil and lease condensate.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_produ...

Re:Rivian CEO: 'blows my mind' to see US auto makers shiftin... by saltcured on Thursday September 04, 2025 @12:32PM (#45129091)
Perhaps it is unreasonable to conflate production and export in a discussion about the "strange" decision making of domestic industry players...?
Re:Rivian CEO: 'blows my mind' to see US auto makers shiftin... by SR2Z on Thursday September 04, 2025 @01:28PM (#45129829)
I found using "producer" to mean "producer" was very clear to me.
Re:Rivian CEO: 'blows my mind' to see US auto makers shiftin... by JimDugan on Thursday September 04, 2025 @09:41AM (#45127194)
YOU are confusing crude oil production with exports. The US IS the largest oil producing country:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_pro...

The parent commenter is right. You are wrong. Do a little Google search before commenting.

Re:Rivian CEO: 'blows my mind' to see US auto makers shiftin... by vwem on Thursday September 04, 2025 @11:50AM (#45128626)
They did do one, but the US only slid into top spot somewhat recently it looks like?

Can avoid the hostility.

Re:Rivian CEO: 'blows my mind' to see US auto makers shiftin... by 42lux on Thursday September 04, 2025 @12:55PM (#45129379)
It's half a decade.
Re:Rivian CEO: 'blows my mind' to see US auto makers shiftin... by strawhatguy on Thursday September 04, 2025 @09:43AM (#45127218)
1 is not true, 2 maybe, but people haven’t bought EVs beyond the upper middle class segment too. 3 I don’t think it’s employees, but there’s definitely government involvement which has made innovation difficult.

Plus, there’s a question if pure EVs are the best, perhaps EREVs might be better.

Re:Rivian CEO: 'blows my mind' to see US auto makers shiftin... by herbturbo on Thursday September 04, 2025 @10:49AM (#45127932)
4. America is a giant land mass and Americans want 500 miles of range when most countries are ok with 200.
Re:Rivian CEO: 'blows my mind' to see US auto makers shiftin... by archagon on Thursday September 04, 2025 @01:04PM (#45129485)
Most Americans don’t drive anywhere near that far.
Re:Rivian CEO: 'blows my mind' to see US auto makers shiftin... by tkjef on Thursday September 04, 2025 @01:24PM (#45129767)
the range would be for more than one trip.

anecdotally i had a 2011 Nissan Leaf 1st year it came out. Was neat. I have not gone back to electric. I sold it for $800 with 90k miles on it.