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Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by watwut on Wednesday September 03, 2025 @09:08AM (#45115289)
How is US being a good place to be at if you are in legal trouble? It is super expensive, trial penalty is huge so you are severely motivated to sign plea deal and not push it. The punishments are huge and incarceration rates among highest in the world. Protections seems to be largely theoretical - technically you have them, practically they do not do much but make you pay more money.
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Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday September 03, 2025 @01:11PM (#45118204)
"It's super expensive" is still different from "you disappear". Yes, the US system is flawed, but the difference really matters.
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Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by don_esteban on Thursday September 04, 2025 @12:06PM (#45128803)
But it is not "The US is still among the very best places in the world"

And the incidence of 'being in legal trouble in USA' vs 'being disappeared in BAD COUNTRY XXX' is quite different, for almost all bad countries.

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Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by fragmede on Thursday September 04, 2025 @03:05PM (#45131010)
People have started being disappeared by ICE. They've been kidnapped off the streets with no access to a lawyer until after. The difference does matter, but it seems we're uncomfortably close to there now.
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Re:We already live in social credit, we just don't call it that by 1718627440 on Thursday September 04, 2025 @06:59PM (#45133206)
Yes and this makes the US just not an example of liberal democracy anymore, so you can't use it as an example for "the West" when using very recent examples.
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