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Re:Google disables compression for OpenSSL in Chrome - SSL e... by cperciva on Wednesday September 12, 2012 @11:47AM (#4511194)
You don't even need (3) if you can do enough trials and have an accurate clock. Compression by its very nature drips timing side channels.
Re:Google disables compression for OpenSSL in Chrome - SSL e... by __alexs on Wednesday September 12, 2012 @12:35PM (#4511498)
Due to the padding of even compressed SSL segments only having timing data will significantly complicate things. You'll be trying to measure the variance in deflate compressing different blocks with single byte differences. You better have an extremely low jitter connection!
Re:Google disables compression for OpenSSL in Chrome - SSL e... by caf on Wednesday September 12, 2012 @09:55PM (#4514372)
Low jitter is not a requirement for timing side-channel attacks. As long as the jitter is uncorrelated with the timing difference that you're after, you can filter the signal from the noise.
Re:Google disables compression for OpenSSL in Chrome - SSL e... by JoachimSchipper on Wednesday September 12, 2012 @01:54PM (#4511931)
> You better have an extremely low jitter connection!

Like AWS. (Cite: http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1653687.)

Re:Google disables compression for OpenSSL in Chrome - SSL e... by __alexs on Wednesday September 12, 2012 @02:11PM (#4512060)
I doubt youd even have to break SSL using that attack. Lots of people do SSL termination at the load balancer.
Re:Google disables compression for OpenSSL in Chrome - SSL e... by Dylan16807 on Wednesday September 12, 2012 @06:08PM (#4513515)
Okay, but people don't run web browsers on AWS.
Re:Google disables compression for OpenSSL in Chrome - SSL e... by abadidea on Wednesday September 12, 2012 @07:47PM (#4513930)
Re:Google disables compression for OpenSSL in Chrome - SSL e... by Dylan16807 on Friday September 14, 2012 @12:24AM (#4520064)
Doesn't do HTTPS, also I am skeptical of cross-site javascript shenanigans happening on the server-end of silk.
Re:Google disables compression for OpenSSL in Chrome - SSL e... by JoachimSchipper on Thursday September 13, 2012 @05:53AM (#4515403)
People do run HTTPS clients on AWS, though. Web APIs tend to [1] require exactly that.

[1] Lala people never send sensitive data over plain HTTP I'M NOT HEARING YOU.

Re:Google disables compression for OpenSSL in Chrome - SSL e... by Dylan16807 on Friday September 14, 2012 @12:24AM (#4520067)
Sure, they might use HTTPS, but how often do they load arbitrary pages with uncontrolled javascript?
Re:Google disables compression for OpenSSL in Chrome - SSL e... by JoachimSchipper on Friday September 14, 2012 @04:27AM (#4520736)
Pretty much never. How often do they make requests that are at least partially attacker-controlled, though? (Note that variants on https://www.someapi.com/...?username=foo contain attacker-controlled data...)