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Re:Grok $0.05 per request, guidelines violation fee by King-Aaron on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @03:45AM (#45100206)
Ah, the "say mean things about Elon tax"
Re:Grok $0.05 per request, guidelines violation fee by trilogic on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @03:53AM (#45100250)
That´s one way of collecting tax LOL, but we can´t blame Elon for everything. Maybe is some team leader that feels very powerful, so much that, it thinks it can apply this cheat under radar.
Re:Grok $0.05 per request, guidelines violation fee by BoorishBears on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @04:08AM (#45100317)
As I mention in the sibling comment there's a real cost for blocked requests.

I just checked and since the inception of my site I've spent a bit over $3000 on inference that was ultimately blocked from being shown to the end user.

And I have very permissive thresholds for the classifiers, the content getting blocked is "radioactive", not even toxic.

Re:Grok $0.05 per request, guidelines violation fee by BoorishBears on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @04:00AM (#45100278)
More like the "gooner/jailbreak tax"

For my product I don't charge the user for blocked requests because content classifiers aren't perfect and sometimes trigger frivolously... but in theory a persistent user intentionally trying to push boundaries could cost me a lot of money: since I'm still paying for resources used to do the inference that was blocked.

This seems like an ok way to deal with that gap, but only if there's a reasonable amount of grace built in that they're not detailing here (since detailing it will result in people abusing right up until said grace expires)

Re:Grok $0.05 per request, guidelines violation fee by trilogic on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @04:10AM (#45100335)
That make sense but... It establishes a new precedent by imposing new standards on users which may be misused in the future. Policy is private and very difficult to define, it may be interpreted by gusto/convenience.

This can only be good for our business, HugstonOne will get more users, like exponentially fast :)