Re:Grok Code Fast 1
by signatoremo on Friday August 29, 2025 @06:25PM
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What is your stand ơn using Chinese models? They censor Tiananmen Square protests, they censor Tibet ethnic cleansing, they censor any opinion against China’s role in Khmer Rouge’s mass killings. Do you boycott DeepSeek or Qwen? Or you consider those actions not evil enough compared to Elon’s?
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Re:Grok Code Fast 1
by jascha_eng on Saturday August 30, 2025 @09:29AM
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Those censorships are government enforced and don't necessarily allow conclusions about how the company developing the models thinks they are just following local laws. If anthropic was a Chinese company Claude would do the same.
Do I think it's problematic? Yes, but I don't blame the company or their leadership for it. For grok and xai you can very much be skeptical about the team behind it for it's actions
That is certainly an interesting discussion we might have some day. But we are not discussing Chinese models today. Whataboutism kills rational discourse: any discussion can be derailed by asking "but what about…".