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Re:Grok Code Fast 1 by jjangkke on Friday August 29, 2025 @03:39PM (#45068481)
Elon Musk is not a nazi.
Re:Grok Code Fast 1 by jameshart on Friday August 29, 2025 @03:48PM (#45068580)
While this point might be open to debate, the original claim, which I definitely stand by, was not that Musk is a Nazi, but rather that xAI have put out a product under the grok brand which manifestly promoted nazi ideas.

If Musk is not in favor of those ideas he might need to work a bit harder to make that clear, because he does tend to leave people with the impression he’s okay with it.

Re:Grok Code Fast 1 by jjangkke on Friday August 29, 2025 @03:50PM (#45068608)
A prompt was edited by an xAI staff that caused xAI to ignore the politically correct filter, how is Elon Musk responsible for this ?
Re:Grok Code Fast 1 by lovich on Friday August 29, 2025 @05:29PM (#45069620)
Isn’t he the CEO and owner? I thought their massive wealth and control was morally ok because they carried the responsibility for the companies actions at the end of the day.

Guess you can have the power and no responsibility! Always someone else’s fault!

Re:Grok Code Fast 1 by sjsdaiuasgdia on Friday August 29, 2025 @05:32PM (#45069644)
He's the CEO, and there's now been a few "oh geez some rogue employee made grok say white supremacist stuff, we totally didn't mean for it to say that!" moments.

If the management isn't fixing the problems that led to those events, the management is responsible.

Re:Grok Code Fast 1 by const_cast on Friday August 29, 2025 @03:57PM (#45068678)
He's not very good at demonstrating that.

I don't know man. For like... the other 7 billion people on Earth it seems preeeetty easy for them not to be confused with a Nazi.

Seems to me just Elon has that issue. I've never had that issue. I don't know anyone who's has that issue. So, it makes you wonder.

Re:Grok Code Fast 1 by andriesm on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @05:39AM (#45100843)
Elon desperately convincing everyone he is not a Nazi, is like being asked to answer the question "Why do you beat your wife every day? " And then you trying to explain that "no it's not every day, in fact it is never." And then public opinion be like "He doth protest too much"
Re:Grok Code Fast 1 by const_cast on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @09:54AM (#45103153)
Nobody else needs to convince people they're not a Nazi. I certainly don't.

We can pretend to look the other way all day, or we can take some accountability. Apologizing isn't hard. It would be very easy for him to make this all disappear. But he won't do it.

Maybe it's pride, maybe he's just stupid, I don't know.

Re:Grok Code Fast 1 by Revisional_Sin on Friday August 29, 2025 @03:45PM (#45068552)
Then why did he publicly do a Nazi salute?
Re:Grok Code Fast 1 by jjangkke on Friday August 29, 2025 @03:47PM (#45068575)
He did not do a Nazi salute because otherwise ADL would've been all over him. ADL came out saying he didn't do a Nazi salute.
Re:Grok Code Fast 1 by iamdelirium on Friday August 29, 2025 @04:01PM (#45068729)
The ADL is not the final arbitrator of what is a Nazi salute and what isn't.
Re:Grok Code Fast 1 by Revisional_Sin on Friday August 29, 2025 @05:36PM (#45069681)
And they were criticised for this by many other Jewish organisations.
Re:Grok Code Fast 1 by KingMob on Saturday August 30, 2025 @06:29AM (#45073511)
The ADL's morally bankrupt calculus is that they value support for Israel more, so they covered for Musk as long as he supports Israel. Which sadly, makes the rest of us less safe.