Re:China Is Eating the World
by freilanzer on Friday August 29, 2025 @04:29AM
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Qwen3-Embedding is really good, imo. It allows me to release a global feature that would have been extremely difficult otherwise.
None of these are SOTA in any benchmark I've seen. Some of them get in the top 10 or top 5 some times.
What these Chinese models have that is interesting is that they are much cheaper to run and they are open source. This has pushed the other closed source SOTA models to make all the big updates we have seen the last few months. I guess we can thank these Chinese models for creating some competitive pressure, which has pushed the forefront, but they aren't doing so by leading the forefront.
Re:China Is Eating the World
by freilanzer on Monday September 01, 2025 @07:24AM
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Qwen scores very high in the MTEB: https://huggingface.co/spaces/mteb/leaderboard
I'm pretty sure this isn't what happened. DeepSeek just hasn't released a big model upate. But in the meantime, Qwen, Bytedance, Ziphu and Moonshot AI have released extremely impressive models, some of which are SOTA or close to it. The open source/open weight world is still in love with Chinese labs as they keep releasing cool stuff and filling the void left by Meta and Mistral.