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Re:Toyota Is Recycling Old EV Batteries to Help Power Mazda'... by hinkley on Thursday August 28, 2025 @04:02AM (#45049645)
No I’m talking about what warrants putting a pack on the secondary market and they’re being unreasonable. Just being 80% of initial capacity isn’t going to prompt someone to swap the batteries out. A damaged pack will.
Re:Toyota Is Recycling Old EV Batteries to Help Power Mazda'... by CyberDildonics on Thursday August 28, 2025 @08:31AM (#45051365)
There are lots of car battery packs out there on the secondary market for many different reasons. Not every single battery pack is taken out from a good car because it has a bad cell.

they’re being unreasonable

No one is being 'unreasonable' you just started talking about something different.

Re:Toyota Is Recycling Old EV Batteries to Help Power Mazda'... by OneDeuxTriSeiGo on Thursday August 28, 2025 @08:37AM (#45051408)
Ehhh it really depends. There are plenty of vehicles that are getting traded in where manufacturers/dealers would rather just replace the batteries.

I'd wager the bulk of them are hybrids where the batteries see a pretty aggressive charge/discharge cycle on a relatively small capacity (and therefore being relatively cheap to replace compared to a full electric). Of course then there are also full electrics where the owners get upgraded capacity or replacements due to degradation from use.

And importantly they aren't just recycling EV batteries here. They are using lithium-ion, nickel metal-hydride, and lead-acid batteries. So they are also buying up traditional ICE automotive batteries as well.

Also worth noting this project is a collaboration between Toyota, JERA, and local universities for use at JERA's facilities. JERA is a large battery reprocessing and recycling company so they are already getting second hand batteries into their facilities on a regular basis. This project is primarily about doing the design and engineering work necessary so that JERA can set up an array of these battery containers, get notified when a unit fails, and swap out the battery with one from their stock for recycling.