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Re:Is 4chan the perfect Pirate Bay poster child to justify w... by sockbot on Sunday August 24, 2025 @09:52PM (#45009481)
It sounds just as unfair as including a levy on blank CDs paid to music copyright holders, regardless of how the CDs are used. But being unfair doesn't mean it can't happen in your country.
Re:Is 4chan the perfect Pirate Bay poster child to justify w... by throawayonthe on Sunday August 24, 2025 @09:56PM (#45009497)
Re:Is 4chan the perfect Pirate Bay poster child to justify w... by ipaddr on Sunday August 24, 2025 @11:00PM (#45009779)
Which then allows you to download without being sued because you already paid.
Re:Is 4chan the perfect Pirate Bay poster child to justify w... by moefh on Sunday August 24, 2025 @11:51PM (#45010031)
No, it doesn't. From that Wikipedia entry:

> A common misconception is that levies are compensation for illegal copying such as file sharing. This is incorrect, however, levies are only intended to compensate for private copying that is legally allowed in many jurisdictions. For example, uploading a purchased CD on to another personal device such as a laptop or MP3 player.

"Private copying" is generally allowed under copyright law -- except that under DMCA, it's only allowed if you're not circumventing DRM. So for example, you can legally make a private copy of a CD, but not a Blu-ray disc.

Re:Is 4chan the perfect Pirate Bay poster child to justify w... by dragonwriter on Sunday August 24, 2025 @11:54PM (#45010040)
> "Private copying" is making private copies of is generally allowed under copyright law -

Private copying is not generally allowed, but private copying levies tend to be adopted alongside specific exceptions for certain cases of private copying in the copyright law of the jurisdiction adopting them (e.g., in the US, those in the Audio Home Recording Act.)

Re:Is 4chan the perfect Pirate Bay poster child to justify w... by moefh on Monday August 25, 2025 @12:06AM (#45010098)
Right, what I meant is that private copying is allowed because these levies exist -- but the fact that they exist only allows you to make private copies, not (as was stated) download anything.
Re:Is 4chan the perfect Pirate Bay poster child to justify w... by subscribed on Monday August 25, 2025 @06:03AM (#45012187)
Depends on the jurisdiction. In several personal use rights are broad enough to download almost anything (eg except software or databases), and the levy is explicitly described in law as a compensation.
Re:Is 4chan the perfect Pirate Bay poster child to justify w... by hahn-kev on Sunday August 24, 2025 @11:40PM (#45009981)
Wow
Re:Is 4chan the perfect Pirate Bay poster child to justify w... by diggan on Monday August 25, 2025 @10:56AM (#45014574)
Flashback to Sweden, around 2011 or so. Copyright owners convince the government to add a $/GB levy to digital storage mediums like USBs, just in case people would use it for storing copyrighted material. The kicker? Personally archiving copyrighted material to your personal storage is (was?) fully allowed by law, but somehow it went through anyways. Glad I don't live there anymore :)