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Re:Pixel 10 Phones by observationist on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @07:10PM (#44967465)
Apple imposes "Artificial Incompetence" on their users. It treats them like children, gives them no agency, and limits their freedom, all while praising them for their taste and superior sense of... something.

This current iteration of Apple lacks the geniuses and visionaries that might have possibly justified their behavior at some point in the past, so you have a soulless corporate churn reinforcing the biggest walled garden in the history of humanity, with no apparent purpose except self perpetuation.

Doing things weirdly and badly, and not allowing any other way, prevents skill transfer between operating systems and environments. It prevents easy transfer of software - it forces software to treat the weird and bad things as canonical.

Apple users, with their imposed muscle memory, not realizing how good things could and should be, insist on their high taste and discrimination, and point to things "just working" and other inanities as vehement cover for one of the darkest of dark patterns.

Interoperability, protocol, and freedom should be mandatory. Google is hardly better, but at least you can own the device you purchase.

Re:Pixel 10 Phones by darkhorse222 on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @07:23PM (#44967532)
If you cannot understand what made Apple successful then or today what makes you think you're not failing to grasp something? You head right on to making an argument when nakedly revealing that you can't comprehend the other side.

Not surprising, this site is made for the Woz's of the world (and that's fine!).

Re:Pixel 10 Phones by selcuka on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @07:37PM (#44967608)
> Not surprising, this site is made for the Woz's of the world (and that's fine!).

I'm pretty sure Woz perfectly understands why iPhone has a larger market share.

I use a Pixel too, but I can see that an iPhone is more appealing to 80%+ of world's population.

Re:Pixel 10 Phones by leptons on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @08:53PM (#44968036)
Except iPhone doesn't have a larger market share, and they aren't being used by 80% of the world's population. Where are you pulling these numbers from? iPhone only has a larger market share in the US, and not by much. Worldwide they are very small compared to android.
Re:Pixel 10 Phones by selcuka on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @11:39PM (#44968820)
I said "iPhone is more appealing to 80%+ of world's population". I didn't say 80% can afford it.

It's pure speculation, of course, but given its current market share (27% of all devices sold) and its price point, I don't think it's too far fetched to say that its market share would be much higher if price wasn't an issue for people. This is somewhat hinted by the fact that it has a 78% market share in the $1,000+ segment [1].

Also it still ships more phones than any other single vendor (unless you lump all Android phones into one bucket). In terms of revenue, it's by far the leader with 43% [2].

[1] https://www.netguru.com/blog/iphone-vs-android-users-differe...

[2] https://www.counterpointresearch.com/en/insights/global-smar...

Re:Pixel 10 Phones by jajko on Thursday August 21, 2025 @02:41AM (#44969760)
Overconfident in your numbers you are, just because they suit your narrative. Zero actual backing for those you provide. Not reflecting reality I can see they are.
Re:Pixel 10 Phones by selcuka on Thursday August 21, 2025 @07:17AM (#44971351)
At least I have some numbers.
Re:Pixel 10 Phones by leptons on Thursday August 21, 2025 @06:58PM (#44979169)
You made up some numbers, that isn't the same as "having numbers".
Re:Pixel 10 Phones by leptons on Thursday August 21, 2025 @03:25AM (#44970038)
>I said "iPhone is more appealing to 80%+ of world's population".

The reality distortion field is alive and well.

Re:Pixel 10 Phones by selcuka on Thursday August 21, 2025 @07:17AM (#44971359)
You asked "where are you pulling these numbers from?" and I answered. Is this your response?
Re:Pixel 10 Phones by leptons on Thursday August 21, 2025 @06:48PM (#44979078)
You made the numbers up. Got it.
Re:Pixel 10 Phones by rockemsockem on Thursday August 21, 2025 @01:42AM (#44969400)
> This current iteration of Apple lacks the geniuses and visionaries that might have possibly justified their behavior at some point in the past, so you have a soulless corporate churn reinforcing the biggest walled garden in the history of humanity, with no apparent purpose except self perpetuation.

My read was that this addressed your point.