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Re:Copilot broke audit logs, but Microsoft won't tell customers by degamad on Tuesday August 19, 2025 @11:21PM (#44958353)
One thing that's not clear in the write-up here: *which* audit log is he talking about? Sharepoint file accesses? Copilot actions? Purview? Something else?
Re:Copilot broke audit logs, but Microsoft won't tell customers by RachelF on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @12:14AM (#44958577)
Lots of things aren't clear.

Copilot is accessing the indexed contents of the file, not the file itself, when you tell it not to access the file.

The blog writer/marketer needs to look at the index access logs.

Re:Copilot broke audit logs, but Microsoft won't tell customers by internetter on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @12:20AM (#44958596)
> The blog writer/marketer needs to look at the index access logs.

How can you say this if microsoft is issuing a fix?

Re:Copilot broke audit logs, but Microsoft won't tell customers by pnt12 on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @03:55AM (#44959712)
But those are technicalities.

I imagine the intended feature is learning about who read some information, and who modified it.

The implementation varies, but on a CRUD app it seems easy: an authenticated GET or PUT request against a file path - easy audit log.

If you are copying information to another place, and make it accessible there in a lossy way that is hard to audit... you broke your auditing system.

Maybe it's useful, maybe it's a trade-off, but is something that should be disclosed.

Re:Copilot broke audit logs, but Microsoft won't tell customers by mr_toad on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @06:36AM (#44960607)
Not all vector databases are lossy. And even if a lossy index is used it’s totally possible to identify the original source of the information.
Re:Copilot broke audit logs, but Microsoft won't tell customers by poemxo on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @02:10AM (#44959116)
I asked ChatGPT the same thing and got

> The system being referred to in that explanation is Microsoft 365 (M365) / Office 365 audit logging, specifically the Unified Audit Log in the Microsoft Purview Compliance Portal.

Re:Copilot broke audit logs, but Microsoft won't tell customers by eCa on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @02:18AM (#44959157)
Have you confirmed that this is true?
Re:Copilot broke audit logs, but Microsoft won't tell customers by poemxo on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @03:23AM (#44959530)
No, but I figured it would recognize the format of the audit logs and no one else seemed to confirm which audit logs they meant.

It seems like this[1] documentation matches the stuff in TFA

[1] https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/purview/audit-copilot

Re:Copilot broke audit logs, but Microsoft won't tell customers by lionkor on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @05:52AM (#44960380)
It doesn't recognize. It tells you what you wanna hear. I don't understand how this isn't brutally clear to everyone at this point.
Re:Copilot broke audit logs, but Microsoft won't tell customers by majewsky on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @06:06AM (#44960459)
If you had checked that before posting your original message, you could have spared yourself the embarrassment of publishing a "ChatGPT speculates the following" post by just linking the documentation right away.
Re:Copilot broke audit logs, but Microsoft won't tell customers by NameForComment on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @04:16AM (#44959838)
In one of the footnotes: "The audit log will not show that the user accessed the file as a normal SharePointFileOperation FileAccessed event, but rather as a CopilotInteraction record. That’s intended, and in my opinion correct. It would be weird to make it as if the user directly accessed the file when they only did so via Copilot."
Re:Copilot broke audit logs, but Microsoft won't tell customers by ezconnect on Wednesday August 20, 2025 @07:21AM (#44960820)
So it is not logged as Copilot and the user using Copilot? I guess the chat is logged so it's another way to trace accountability.