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Re:The Enterprise Experience by lelanthran on Monday August 18, 2025 @02:04AM (#44937829)
> Does "career development" just mean "more money"? If so, why not just say "there are opportunities to make more money"?

That was not my takeaway, because earlier he alluded (twice) to the fact that titles are a thing:

1. A senior technical person who can't turn on a computer and an analyst not being able to speak english,

2. `I have met no less than 6 (six) people with the title "head of architecture".`

So I am guessing that is what he means by "career development"; you can acquire impressive titles.

Re:The Enterprise Experience by BrenBarn on Monday August 18, 2025 @02:45AM (#44938030)
I've never understood why anyone would care about titles at all.
Re:The Enterprise Experience by lelanthran on Monday August 18, 2025 @03:14AM (#44938174)
> I've never understood why anyone would care about titles at all.

I cannot understand this sort of notion at all.

1. You don't care about $SOMETHING - great, I can understand that.

2. You don't understand why others care about $SOMETHING - Sure, I can understand that too.

3. You feel a need to broadcast this lack of understanding to the world - wtf?

I mean, I'm ignorant on a lot of subjects, but I hardly ever boast about my ignorance.

It's like when people proudly tell me "Oh no, I've never been any good at Maths": sure, lots of people aren't good at reasoning, but is being stupid something to brag about?

Re:The Enterprise Experience by kaffekaka on Monday August 18, 2025 @12:30PM (#44942479)
Aren't you doing exactly the same thing yourself? Your reply literally begins with the words "I cannot understand ..."
Re:The Enterprise Experience by lelanthran on Monday August 18, 2025 @02:35PM (#44943829)
> Aren't you doing exactly the same thing yourself? Your reply literally begins with the words "I cannot understand ..."

Yeah, but mine was contextual; I replied to someone complaining that they can't understand. That reply was not contextual, it was simply virtue signalling.

Re:The Enterprise Experience by jodrellblank on Monday August 18, 2025 @08:41PM (#44947036)
Hint: he's not broadcasting a lack of understanding, he's boasting, posturing, that people who think titles mean something are dumb and he is too smart to be taken in by it. Ideas like "titles look better on a resume to future employers" or "titles make my extended family proud when they know nothing about my job or industry" or "bigger titles get a default level of respect from distant employees within the company" are lost on him.

It's not like when people tell you about their low maths ability, that's generally not boasting it's more trying to make a social connection. Like "I'm humbling myself and admitting flaws, not putting myself above anyone else (which would be rude)" or "you computer guy must be a math person, don't hate me because I'm dumb, please be kind" or "I've never liked <those> people, you're like me, right?" where <those> is book-smart people (or any <other_people> target group).

Re:The Enterprise Experience by hdgvhicv on Monday August 18, 2025 @05:04AM (#44938691)
With more title comes more salary. Usually more ability to influence more policy too.
Re:The Enterprise Experience by 63stack on Monday August 18, 2025 @08:54AM (#44940056)
"More title" can also be used to quell ambitious, but naive/misguided people into not asking for a higher salary. I've met quite a few people who attach way too much pride to how "high" they are in the corporate ladder. They saw the title itself as a part of their compensation.