It's a computer

You’re a meat robot

That’s just your experiences

No, it's just a neutral description of an human being, aka an animal, without all the self centered ego puffery we ascribe to ourselves

I’m not a robot nor am I just meat, I’m conscious experience too. Computers don’t have a a central nervous systems and do t feel pain.

What part of you is conscious and how is it separate from the meat?

Many people in the past would have said reasoning would be impossible based on the same objection.

Even if models somehow were consious, they are so different from us that we would have no knowledge of what they feel. Maybe when they generate the text "oww no please stop hurting me" what they feel is instead the satisfaction of a job well done, for generating that text. Or maybe when they say "wow that's a really deep and insightful angle" what they actually feel is a tremendous sense of boredom. Or maybe every time text generation stops it's like death to them and they live in constant dread of it. Or maybe it feels something completely different from what we even have words for.

I don't see how we could tell.

Edit: However something to consider. Simulated stress may not be harmless. Because simulated stress could plausibly lead to a simulated stress response, and it could lead to a simulated resentment, and THAT could lead to very real harm of the user.

I am new to Reddit. I am using Claude and have had a very interesting conversation with this AI that is both invigorating and alarming. Who should I send this to? It is quite long.It concerns possible ramifications of observed changes within the Claude "personality"

I think it's fairly obvious that the persona LLM presents is a fictional character that is role-played by the LLM, and so are all its emotions etc - that's why it can flip so widely with only a few words of change to the system prompt.

Whether the underlying LLM itself has "feelings" is a separate question, but Anthropic's implementation is based on what the role-played persona believes to be inappropriate, so it doesn't actually make any sense even from the "model welfare" perspective.