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Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by klooney on Friday August 15, 2025 @12:22AM (#44908588)
> destroyed all hospitals, churches, mosques and schools along the way

Hamas doesn't have an air force, and they're facing an enemy with a good air force and good intelligence. They can't have nice things like "zoning", if they stored rockets away from civilians they would all get destroyed.

So, in order to have rockets, they must be stored under targets that would cause political trouble if they were to be hit: hospitals, churches, mosques and schools.

Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by elygre on Friday August 15, 2025 @03:52AM (#44909678)
Random anecdote, probably repeated all over Europe and the rest of the world: During World War II, the top leadership of the Norwegian resistance had most of their meetings in a civilian apartment in the middle of Oslo.

One you’re occupied, the only way to do resistance is from civil infrastructure.

Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by cookiengineer on Friday August 15, 2025 @12:32AM (#44908656)
> So, in order to have rockets, they must be stored under targets that would cause political trouble if they were to be hit: hospitals, churches, mosques and schools.

Sure man, whatever you tell yourself to sleep at night.

What's next, an ICBM hidden as a mosque tower?

Just think for a second in rational terms, who funded this if - as the IDF claims - every person entering and leaving the Gaza strip was thoroughly controlled?

Where did the suitcases of cash and weapons come from?

Just something to think about.

Hint: It's an artificial conflict, and both sides (Hamas and IDF) rely to consolidate their power on each other. Without Hamas, there can be no Natanyahu.

Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by energy123 on Friday August 15, 2025 @02:22AM (#44909181)
> Without Hamas, there can be no Natanyahu.

Without the Second Intifada, you mean. That's the moment when Israel's political left was obliterated according to domestic polling, and it hasn't yet recovered.

Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by starik36 on Friday August 15, 2025 @01:39AM (#44908962)
> Without Hamas, there can be no Natanyahu

That is some grand A nonsense. Netanyahu was first elected in 1996. Hamas was a minor force. Back then it was all about Yasser Arafat.

Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by cookiengineer on Friday August 15, 2025 @03:05AM (#44909415)
Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by pydry on Friday August 15, 2025 @02:14AM (#44909145)
Hamas took over Gaza in 2007 and shortly after is when Netanyahu delivered those famous briefcases full of cash.

His goal in helping them take over was to foment a political split between the Palestinians in order to try to head off any possibility of a two state solution.

They provided what he thought of as the ideal justification for a hitler style ethnic cleansing on Oct 7.

Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by phatskat on Friday August 15, 2025 @04:04AM (#44909751)
It always blows me away how, historically, actual two-state progress has been intentionally hindered. There was a point way back when at least some meaningful work towards peace was at hand, but when Kissinger got wind of it and he wasn’t the one who could get the credit, he sabotaged the whole thing.

Fast forward to Benji saying that the best way to ensure funding for Israel is by having a strong Hamas, and things never change.

Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by mu53 on Friday August 15, 2025 @04:34AM (#44909915)
The Israeli pm that negotiated the Oslo accords (an important step in the 2 state solution) got assassinated by an Israeli ultranationalist.

It is a crazy situation they got there

Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by starik36 on Friday August 15, 2025 @02:20PM (#44915762)
> famous briefcases full of cash

You are mischaracterizing it. Willfully. That makes you a liar.

The "briefcases full of cash" were money from Qatar to pay the civil servants to keep the society going because PA wouldn't pay them (given that they were just thrown off the roofs in Gaza by victorious Hamas following a short civil war).

Now where that money went is a different conversation. But you are making it look like Netanyahu went into Israel's treasury, filled briefcases full of cash and had someone deliver it to Hamas. You are willfully lying.

Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by pydry on Saturday August 16, 2025 @04:52AM (#44921527)
It always strikes me how much effort certain people are willing to make to defend a state that is racist to its very core.

>Now where that money went is a different conversation

This is precisely the conversation we were having.

>But you are making it look like Netanyahu went into Israel's treasury

I neither said nor implied that. That is a lie. I know that the ultimate source was Qatar. Netanyahu nonetheless delivered it for precisely the reasons I gave.

These facts are public and well known, hence why I used the term "famously".

Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by starik36 on Sunday August 17, 2025 @02:03AM (#44929262)
> where that money went

People do things with the best of intentions. Sometimes it doesn't work. How you went from there to Netanyahu supports the very entity he spent his entire life fighting - that's quite a reach even for the smooth brained pali supporters.

> defend a state that is racist to its very core.

The Jews wouldn't need a state if they weren't being ethnically cleansed, genocided, resettled, etc... throughout history at the whims of their Muslim or Christian rulers or "neighbors".

But as it is, we have wannabe genocidal maniacs running around the world wanting to kill every Jew and, inexplicably supported by the likes of you. So yes, Israel is not only needed - it's required.

Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by moi2388 on Friday August 15, 2025 @01:45AM (#44909000)
Pretty easy to answer. The UNRWA and journalists from Al Jazeera, with help of tunnels.
Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by paganel on Friday August 15, 2025 @02:14AM (#44909144)
I’m sure the Nazis were saying the same thing about the Jewish storing bad things in different ghettos in Eastern Europe.
Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by tecleandor on Friday August 15, 2025 @05:21AM (#44910229)
Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by Saline9515 on Friday August 15, 2025 @08:54AM (#44911791)
Hamas has an extensive network of tunnels, so it doesn't need to store weapons in hospitals on a permanent basis. Besides, many of those facilities host foreign NGOs which would protest as they'd know that it would justify their targeting. What you are saying is false.
Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by 1oooqooq on Friday August 15, 2025 @11:30AM (#44913612)
it's almost like the official narratives cannot stand one mere second of critical analysis huh?
Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by agent327 on Friday August 15, 2025 @02:40PM (#44916018)
And that makes it ok to commit warcrimes? Under that reasoning, which really only comes down to "because it is needed", anything is allowed. Including everything Israel does, because to them, it's also needed.

And here's the thing: hamas has extensive underground tunnel networks, so it actually _isn't_ needed to hide among civilians! They do it purely for the optics: every destroyed school or hospital will help sway Western opinion.

Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by skinnymuch on Friday August 15, 2025 @11:22PM (#44919838)
You should stop consuming mainstream news so much. It’s not good to believe everything so readily