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Re:Can't pay, won't pay: streaming services are driving view... by dawnerd on Thursday August 14, 2025 @09:56PM (#44907804)
People just don't realize just how garbage even 4k streams are from all the services. It's not in their interest to give you real bluray quality.
Re:Can't pay, won't pay: streaming services are driving view... by kcb on Thursday August 14, 2025 @10:43PM (#44908069)
I don't know, 4k HEVC at 15,000mbps looks plenty good to me.
Re:Can't pay, won't pay: streaming services are driving view... by buzer on Friday August 15, 2025 @12:12AM (#44908531)
...what service offers 15Gbps stream?
Re:Can't pay, won't pay: streaming services are driving view... by oguz-ismail on Friday August 15, 2025 @12:46AM (#44908725)
None. No matter how much you pay, the best you'll ever get from streaming services is a bit-starved encode with fake film grain in a bullshit codec that'll look worse than 720p DVD rips you'd find on Zamunda yet still require more power to decode...
Re:Can't pay, won't pay: streaming services are driving view... by kcb on Friday August 15, 2025 @12:01PM (#44914030)
Sorry my unit was wrong 15Mbps is pretty common for the highest nitrate streams
Re:Can't pay, won't pay: streaming services are driving view... by dawnerd on Friday August 15, 2025 @11:57AM (#44913970)
Commercial 4k Blu-ray’s are twice that all the way up to 4x or sometimes more. And I’d say even on the best mastered disks there’s still obvious encoding artifacts.
Re:Can't pay, won't pay: streaming services are driving view... by 542354234235 on Friday August 15, 2025 @12:06PM (#44914102)
And that is good for you, giving you the benefit of the doubt that you meant 15mbps, but I know I can personally tell the difference between 15mbps and 50mbps. Seeing more detailed film grain and seeing less artifacts in fast moving scenes are two of the most noticeable.
Re:Can't pay, won't pay: streaming services are driving view... by abbycurtis33 on Thursday August 14, 2025 @10:25PM (#44907965)
Yes! Someone came after me on here because I said there really is no 4k streaming.
Re:Can't pay, won't pay: streaming services are driving view... by bombcar on Thursday August 14, 2025 @11:55PM (#44908459)
I’m going to develop 8k streaming - it’s just the normal low bitrate shit, but if you pause it sends a full quality 8k frame.

Nobody will figure it out!

Re:Can't pay, won't pay: streaming services are driving view... by gmueckl on Friday August 15, 2025 @12:12AM (#44908533)
When your source material shows fast sweeping motions you'd certainly get away with that.
Re:Can't pay, won't pay: streaming services are driving view... by dawnerd on Friday August 15, 2025 @11:58AM (#44913989)
The marketing of a resolution really won out. People will fight you if you suggest a high bitrate 1080p encode can look better than a low bitrate 4k.
Re:Can't pay, won't pay: streaming services are driving view... by ProfessorLayton on Friday August 15, 2025 @02:23PM (#44915800)
Bitrate aside, the marketing stopped making sense long ago:

- 720p/1080p is counting vertical pixel resolution

- 4k/8k is counting horizontal pixel resolution

- "4k/8k" is not actually 4,000/8,000 horizontal pixels

- Suddenly the "p" becomes irrelevant (Not that most people even knew what it meant to begin with)

- 720/1080/4k/8k totally disregards aspect ratio

- Consumers already have a way to compare, and they're called "megapixels"

- 2.1MP (1080p) and 8.3MP (4k) etc. is a lot more consumer friendly since it's already used for cameras.

Marketing really won at making this a mess.

Re:Can't pay, won't pay: streaming services are driving view... by dawnerd on Friday August 15, 2025 @07:59PM (#44918626)
That's not even including HDR and the fake 4k upscales.