Re:Steve Wozniak: Life to me was never about accomplishment,...
by dylan604 on Thursday August 14, 2025 @05:22PM
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But it is not the iPhone that is the problem. It is theZuck's app. That's like saying that the telephone is evil because people use it to scam people. No, the scammers are evil. Quit victim blaming.
We seem to be focused on the iPhone, but what about a Pixel or a Galaxy? They're just devices. People use them for shitty things does not make the device shitty just for existing. You're throwing the baby out with the bath water here, and gleefully acknowledging it.
Re:Steve Wozniak: Life to me was never about accomplishment,...
by CjHuber on Thursday August 14, 2025 @05:42PM
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And the idea for a pixel or a galaxy came before the iPhone? Also what I was referring to was Steve Jobs general attitude to computers. Honestly if they were still the boring business machines the world would be a better place IMO
Of course you did and were able to. But I think you're wrong :-) you know I meant this.
I get your point but I think it is a bit naive.
> Because you clearly edited yours.
Yep, sorry, I can see how this impacted your answer. I notably removed the part were I said I think it's important that engineers and salespeople should take responsibility in what they do. I do think so.
> I fully believe that Facebook et al should be treated exactly as bigTobacco. They have/are deliberately tweaking their product to make it as addictive as possible. This is a knowingly and deliberate act. It is known that they have done studies to see if they have the ability to mess with people's mood/well being. They know the effect their product has on people, and they continue to modify it to be even more effective.
But I do 100% agree. That's my point.
Facebook is not innocent in the design of its apps.
The same way Apple is responsible for the design of the iPhone.