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Re:A proposal for improving HN : it should cost a user Karma... by wensing on Friday September 07, 2012 @10:29AM (#4489226)
I've been around for 2,017 days. Number of comments has gone down steadily, but I agree with mixmax as for the reason.

Would any old-timer care to use the open-source HN code and create a vintage HN by automatically inviting anyone with an age of >N days?

Re:A proposal for improving HN : it should cost a user Karma... by mbrubeck on Friday September 07, 2012 @07:53PM (#4491747)
http://news.ycombinator.com/classic is a version of the front page sorted only by votes from accounts over one year old. Generally the ranking is not too different, at least for top items. (I know this is not the same thing you're talking about; it just reminded me of it. Also note that /classic was created at a time when there were far fewer accounts that old; perhaps a higher threshold would be more interesting now.)

Source: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=607271

Personally I've been here for 1472 days (3.5 years) and on the leaderboard for much of that time. I feel like the quality has gone through several up-and-down cycles, though some of that is probably because my tastes have changed too. Overall it feels much as it did several years ago.

Re:A proposal for improving HN : it should cost a user Karma... by rbanffy on Friday September 07, 2012 @10:31PM (#4492040)
Even old-timers rarely browse the /newest page to mod those up. This creates a bias favoring the ranking produced at /news because said old-timers will upvote those more than the ones at /newest (or /classic)

The problem is not only the home page ranking: it's the discussions. I see a lot of low-quality (as in "it's more important to be right than it is to debate in civilized ways") discussions. I did not correlate that to account age.

Re:A proposal for improving HN : it should cost a user Karma... by bootload on Friday September 07, 2012 @07:24PM (#4491685)
"... Would any old-timer care to use the open-source HN code and create a vintage HN by automatically inviting anyone with an age of >N days? ..."

2024 days here @wensing, No.

Being here a long time doesn't confer any special status. All it really shows is curiosity and early adoption. Other than having seen a wider range of technology, topics, discussion and behaviour the one thing I've noted is the number of high ranking stories sans comments.

I'd really like to can articles limited to point threshold with no comments. No comments, no value & shouldn't get the chance to go up the story leader board.

Re:A proposal for improving HN : it should cost a user Karma... by wensing on Friday September 07, 2012 @11:08PM (#4492104)
Special status isn't the point. They're simply cohorts and it would be interesting to see what the conversation would be like when segmented as such.
Re:A proposal for improving HN : it should cost a user Karma... by bootload on Saturday September 08, 2012 @11:16PM (#4494787)
"... it would be interesting to see what the conversation would be like when segmented as such. ..."

You already can. Just randomly pick a low item id, ie: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20111 and follow up the comments to the article head ie: "How to Build a Web 2.0 Dating Site in 66.5 Man-Hours " http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19988

The sig/noise was different, fewer higher qual comments.

Re:A proposal for improving HN : it should cost a user Karma... by simon on Friday September 07, 2012 @03:29PM (#4490757)
2025 days! Woohoo! :-)

Sorry about that ... back to your regularly scheduled programming.

Re:A proposal for improving HN : it should cost a user Karma... by elviejo on Friday September 07, 2012 @04:00PM (#4490907)
I've been a leach for 2023 days :-)
Re:A proposal for improving HN : it should cost a user Karma... by simon on Friday September 07, 2012 @04:48PM (#4491106)
Yep. I remember that when I saw the initial announcement (don't remember where), I grabbed my account name just incase I ever wanted to try the startup thing, trying to make sure that I could get my name rather than "some31337d00d_27".
Re:A proposal for improving HN : it should cost a user Karma... by seiji on Friday September 07, 2012 @07:52PM (#4491742)
It was on the reddit front page when pg made it public a long time ago. Well, 2027 days ago according to my created field. The only way to have an account older than 2027 days (as of today) is if you were in YC before news.yc was public.
Re:A proposal for improving HN : it should cost a user Karma... by simon on Friday September 07, 2012 @08:33PM (#4491818)
Arrgh, I'm two days off the maximum. Must have been getting slow in my old age!
Re:A proposal for improving HN : it should cost a user Karma... by larrys on Friday September 07, 2012 @10:39AM (#4489298)
And what might that "n" be that lets the last man over the bridge?
Re:A proposal for improving HN : it should cost a user Karma... by sstrudeau on Friday September 07, 2012 @11:30AM (#4489583)
I just checked mine ... 1337 days seems like a good number :)
Re:A proposal for improving HN : it should cost a user Karma... by doktrin on Friday September 07, 2012 @01:00PM (#4490054)
First of all : fantastic age - congrats :)

Secondly, I know your comment was tongue-in-cheek, but that would actually be a very appropriate age cut-off for what strikes me as a remarkably elitist endeavor.

Re:A proposal for improving HN : it should cost a user Karma... by malandrew on Friday September 07, 2012 @12:37PM (#4489930)
I'm at 730 days and I can support 1337 days, so long as I can read. I don't mind waiting just shy of two to be able to comment so long as the comment and post quality is exceptional.

TBH I'm fascinated to know how the community would differ from HN of 4 years ago, since all the older participants would be 4 years more experienced in life and hacking.

Re:A proposal for improving HN : it should cost a user Karma... by wensing on Friday September 07, 2012 @02:47PM (#4490570)
Re: the TBH - exactly. I just might have to try this.
Re:A proposal for improving HN : it should cost a user Karma... by zgembo on Friday September 07, 2012 @10:51AM (#4489370)
Think early TechCrunch. No tech stories, only direct links to products and services are allowed.

http://pivoted.co/

Re:A proposal for improving HN : it should cost a user Karma... by guptaneil on Friday September 07, 2012 @01:44PM (#4490266)
Is this your site? The search page prints PHP code at the top, just so you know.
Re:A proposal for improving HN : it should cost a user Karma... by zgembo on Friday September 07, 2012 @02:48PM (#4490576)
correct. thanks for that, will fix it. have a great weekend!
Re:A proposal for improving HN : it should cost a user Karma... by wensing on Friday September 07, 2012 @11:06AM (#4489450)

  def cutoff():
    return min([leader.age for leader in get_leaders("http://news.ycombinator.com/leaders")]
I leave you to define get_leaders. :)
Re:A proposal for improving HN : it should cost a user Karma... by tommi on Friday September 07, 2012 @01:36PM (#4490229)
Or, as humans would say that, the cutoff could be the youngest of leaders.

However, that really doesn't answer the problem when you don't define what a leader is. If it's the highest amount of Karma past 7 days, then the youngest leader could even be a day old user. Please respond with solutions, not http wrappers.

Re:A proposal for improving HN : it should cost a user Karma... by wensing on Friday September 07, 2012 @02:46PM (#4490567)
If you go to the URL in the code, it defines what a leader is: the 100 people with the highest karma. By define get_leaders I meant write the scraper, not come up with the definition. Heh!
Re:A proposal for improving HN : it should cost a user Karma... by tekacsYC on Friday September 07, 2012 @04:11PM (#4490954)
574 days and it's llambda
Re:A proposal for improving HN : it should cost a user Karma... by gameshot911 on Friday September 07, 2012 @10:47AM (#4489344)
550 days. :)