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Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by Eliezer on Sunday January 25, 2009 @02:59AM (#448901)
Well, it's too late now, but if there are any other parents out there, for God's sake give your kid a globally unique name. It's all one big namespace now. There are other Eliezer Yudkowskys out there, the poor bastards, and they'll spend the rest of their lives under my ugly Google shadow.
Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by Eliezer on Sunday January 25, 2009 @07:04AM (#449063)
Yikes, I see this is currently at the top of the page. Please downvote me far enough so that it isn't the first thing Paul and Jessica see when they check in. PS: Congratulations Paul and Jessica.
Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by prakash on Sunday January 25, 2009 @03:53AM (#448946)
YC startups can point to whichever website PG + JL register. That kind of google karma will easily put George as the #1 George on any of the search engines.

Now, if the YC companies are really creative, George will be the 1st result returned even if someone types in "Eliezer Yudkowsky" ;-)

Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by Eliezer on Sunday January 25, 2009 @06:52AM (#449051)
Good solution, I suppose. At least the first part.

To be fair, I'll be first in line to congratulate PGJL on having not named their kid Jeeebo Graham just because the domain name was available.

But I do advise prospective parents to think hard about what the child might think of the name when grown up. Sure, in one sense it would have been awesome, but I'm glad my mother didn't let my father actually name me Luke Skywalker Yudkowsky, Hari Seldon Yudkowsky, or Roderick Frederick Ronald Arnold William MacArthur McBan Yudkowsky.

Or similarly: I was once at a science fiction convention, and I saw a young kid - maybe 8 or so - wearing a nametag that said "Vanyel". I walked up to him and said, "Excuse me, is Vanyel your real name?" He said, "Yes." I said, "Are you named after Vanyel Ashkevron?" He said, "Yes." And I said, "Awesome."

Which, in a sense, it was - it definitely had a high coolness factor. But what I wanted to ask was, "Did your parents think at all about what sort of problems they might be volunteering their child for, by naming him after one of the most famous gay characters in all of fantasy fiction?" But I didn't ask, because I didn't know if they had explained that part to him yet.

Names matter.

Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by nostrademons on Sunday January 25, 2009 @11:40AM (#449232)
I know a family that named their kids Luke, Leia, and Jedi. It actually works out fairly well, because Luke and Leia were reasonably common names in my generation (though Leia is usually spelled Leah), and Jedi just goes by Jed.
Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by tlrobinson on Sunday January 25, 2009 @05:11PM (#449619)
Well, that's better than "JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell", "Honszlynn Hinler Jeannie Campbell" and "Adolf Hitler Campbell": http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/today/index.ssf/2008/12/holl...
Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by dfranke on Sunday January 25, 2009 @04:07PM (#449521)
If you're going to be creative with a kid's name, you should do it with the middle name. Then it can be up to him whether he wants to use it. My parents gave both my sister and I middle names of Fox, and when she started college my sister begin introducing herself by it.
Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by prakash on Sunday January 25, 2009 @04:30PM (#449563)
interesting. maybe the middle name should be left blank and that person could fill it when he/she turns 18!
Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by LogicHoleFlaw on Monday January 26, 2009 @02:41PM (#450885)
"Yes, that's John _____ Smith. Yes, five underscores. Yes, I know. Yes. Ok, thanks for getting that straightened out."
Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by prakash on Monday January 26, 2009 @05:20PM (#451167)
thats funny..
Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by dfranke on Sunday January 25, 2009 @04:09PM (#449524)
There are three ex-presidents, two of them living, who I think would have consider more Google juice than a conspiracy of YC startups.
Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by BeefingJection on Monday January 26, 2009 @01:44PM (#450796)
Remember that a child's name should also be intention-revealing. "George" doesn't do much for you there. Consider some examples--

* Pat: one of the least intention-revealing names possible. The name is androgynous; can we assume the child is as well? Should we assume the child does not wish to buck the status quo (wishes to "stand pat")?

* George: doing better. It reveals the sex, at least. There is still the problem that it doesn't say much about what the child does.

* Paul Jr.: This is much clearer. The child's sex is clear, as well as its purpose: a lighter, faster implementation of the original Paul Graham (the original, of course, is kept around for reasons of backwards-compatibility).

To test a baby name: Imagine a second, very different baby. Will the name work for both babies?

Other examples of good baby names include mCarryOnTheFamilyName, fBiologicalImperativeToReproduce, and Buck.

Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by ivankirigin on Sunday January 25, 2009 @11:03AM (#449180)
I was thinking "Graham Livingston" would be an awesome name.
Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by glymor on Sunday January 25, 2009 @04:12AM (#448955)
That's very funny but as someone with an unusual name it's less funny.

More seriously your should use a middle name to provide uniqueness. People are basically unable to recognise words they haven't heard before. Complexity in the part of the name used normally is a hassle.

Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by Eliezer on Sunday January 25, 2009 @06:33AM (#449040)
I could wish my name was easier to pronounce, but I would still want first+last to be unique. The thought of people meeting me, typing my name into Google, and getting back a soccer player, frankly does not fill me with joy. Middle name isn't good enough, most people won't type that.

Oh, well. I'm sure George Graham will want to change his name anyway at age 21 in order to outrun all the hideously embarrassing Internet posts he made at age 12, should the present world last so long.

Maybe you want to give your kid a highly anonymous first+last name, and a unique second+last name, so they can switch to using second+last once they grow up.

PS: I know a poor guy who happens to be named David Duke. (I suggested he go by Dave Duke.)

Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by JulianMorrison on Sunday January 25, 2009 @05:47PM (#449655)
The answer is obvious. Unique the surname. People are used to tongue-twisting foreign surnames. It becomes a family namespace, and the kids can have short low-viz first names without either falling off Google or drawing fire from first time acquaintances.
Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by glymor on Sunday January 25, 2009 @07:04AM (#449064)
He's badly off for more than that reason: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke
Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by Eliezer on Sunday January 25, 2009 @07:15AM (#449068)
Well, yes, that's the point.

Again, think of it as a single global namespace. When this particular fellow was named, the other David Duke hadn't hit the news yet - but when the name "David Duke" did become famous and recognizable, there was a namespace collision. That can happen to anyone, especially if your last name is common.

Google makes names easier to "recognize", and the Internet's vastness increases the total amount of "fame". So in the age of the Internet, you want to pick a name for your child that is likely to be and stay unique.

If you have a common last name, a first name that is very rare but not unique, doesn't look strange, and is easy to spell and pronounce, would be ideal.

Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by glymor on Sunday January 25, 2009 @08:15AM (#449091)
Sorry that's obvious in retrospect.

My problem with your argument is that words are "easy to spell and pronounce" because they are common and people have experienced them before.

When I said people are unable to recognise names they haven't heard before I mean that literally. They try to coerce it into one they've heard before and either succeed and call you something random or require you to repeat it 3 times before they are convinced they're not just miss-hearing it.

The only way to get something easy to spell and pronounce that is rare would be to compound common forms. Frankly this is exactly what the middle name does.

That said JoHadRon is globally unique (at least according to google) and has useful short forms. I may change my name.

Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by Dobbs on Sunday January 25, 2009 @05:16AM (#448989)
I have a unique name Tarrant, after my ancestors from England. Sure there are times when I get annoyed that people can't say my name. I'm at the point where when asked for my name for an order at a restaurant I'll give something like Dobbs, Bob or Joe to make life slightly easier. I will say that I greatly prefer having a unique name over having a common name. I've always loved my name and wouldn't trade it, even with the hassles it can bring.
Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by megaduck on Sunday January 25, 2009 @06:28AM (#449036)
I'd say the middle name is the place for common-ness. My first name is unusual (Lon), but my middle name is as common as dirt (David). The first name is a hassle sometimes, but I can always go by my middle name if I want. It also gives me the option to use the elitist "L. David" if I like.

I really like having a unique name, and I don't think I'd be happier being a "John Smith". Ultimately, your name is what you make of it. If you're comfortable with it, then other people will be too. It can even be an advantage for getting remembered by people.

Just look at Barack Hussein Obama, who seems to be getting along just fine with his "funny name".

Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by glymor on Sunday January 25, 2009 @06:59AM (#449056)
Just look at Barack Hussein Obama

Actually for much of his early life he went by Barry. Also Barack and Hussein are very common Arabic names.

Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by tlrobinson on Sunday January 25, 2009 @05:18PM (#449628)
If you do use a middle name for uniqueness try to make the whole name fairly short. My first and last name are quite common, but my full name would be 22 letters. I settled on tlrobinson (first and middle initial, last name), which is pretty unique but not very pretty.
Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by yummyfajitas on Sunday January 25, 2009 @09:30AM (#449129)
This is the sort of reasoning that gives children names like 'Uniq' and 'Latrina'.
Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by yters on Sunday January 25, 2009 @08:54PM (#449874)
I kind of like sharing names with other people. Plus, names used to mean something about a person, and we all share some sort of qualities with other people. When everyone's completely unique, no one is.
Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by point on Sunday January 25, 2009 @09:13AM (#449118)
Like a GUID?
Re:Congratulations, Paul & Jessica; Welcome to the world, Ge... by tlrobinson on Sunday January 25, 2009 @05:23PM (#449634)
Hi, my name is fbc69d4b-d12b-4c07-8b5c-ed1e41818c5d.