Re:UK expands police facial recognition rollout with 10 new ...
by runsWphotons on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @10:28AM
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I commented about this on another thread, and probably most around here disagree with my general point there, but this fact amazes me. We have gotten all this tech creating a surveillance state but then it isn't even used to give better policing. You will just get mugged on camera by someone with ten prior charges and then be ignored by police.
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Re:UK expands police facial recognition rollout with 10 new ...
by ryandrake on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @11:46AM
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All the recent policy, technical leaps, and innovation around policing seem to be focused on cracking down on protesting and speech, and not really on what people would consider "fighting crime". You could get mugged on the street corner in broad daylight (or worse) and the police won't even answer your phone call, but the minute you show up on that street corner with 10 friends carrying signs and shouting, 20 officers will show up in riot gear, and every one of you will be identified using technology.
Re:UK expands police facial recognition rollout with 10 new ...
by potato3732842 on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @11:49AM
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The purpose of the system (the police in this casse) is what it does.
Always been that way, always will be. It's just a little harder to bury your head in the sand than it used to be.
Re:UK expands police facial recognition rollout with 10 new ...
by breppp on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @01:03PM
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the purpose of circular logic is circular logic
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by chongli on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @07:10PM
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The purpose of the system (the police in this casse) is what it does.
Nope. That's an ideology, not a statement of fact. It completely negates the possibility that systems can become corrupted (or simply fail) and no longer work towards their original purpose.
Re:UK expands police facial recognition rollout with 10 new ...
by uoaei on Thursday August 14, 2025 @03:19AM
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Nope. That's an imposition of metaphysics onto what is solely clearly mere empiricism.
Re:UK expands police facial recognition rollout with 10 new ...
by arrowsmith on Thursday August 14, 2025 @08:27AM
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"systems can become corrupted (or simply fail) and no longer work towards their original purpose"
Er, that's exactly what "the purpose of a system is what it does" means.
Re:UK expands police facial recognition rollout with 10 new ...
by chongli on Thursday August 14, 2025 @05:10PM
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No, “the purpose of a system is what it does” implies that the original intent of the creators of a system was for it to become corrupted.
Re:UK expands police facial recognition rollout with 10 new ...
by arrowsmith on Thursday August 14, 2025 @05:26PM
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That's one way to read the literal meaning of the words, but it's not what the phrase means as originally intended.
Re:UK expands police facial recognition rollout with 10 new ...
by chongli on Thursday August 14, 2025 @05:38PM
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Right, but then we apply the phrase to itself and this is what we get!
Re:UK expands police facial recognition rollout with 10 new ...
by immibis on Sunday August 17, 2025 @07:24AM
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Nope. You added that extra word "original" in there.
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Re:UK expands police facial recognition rollout with 10 new ...
by incone123 on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @10:47AM
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Not in Britain there isn't. We have constant retail theft and violence against staff and the Police and Crime Commissioner for Thames Valley asking the public to do the crime fighting
https://www.witneygazette.co.uk/news/25365950.thames-valley-...
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by xnorswap on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @10:45AM
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That's not true whatsoever for the UK, the police barely respond to shoplifting.
Re:UK expands police facial recognition rollout with 10 new ...
by codedokode on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @12:22PM
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The surveillance is there not to catch small thieves, but those who are against the government, against wars etc. A small thief doesn't threaten the regime in any way so he can be dealt with after more dangerous people are dealt with.
Re:UK expands police facial recognition rollout with 10 new ...
by aaronbaugher on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @12:28PM
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In fact, the petty criminal may benefit the regime, if his crimes damage those the regime sees as a greater threat to itself and its goals.
Re:UK expands police facial recognition rollout with 10 new ...
by potato3732842 on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @12:59PM
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The petty thief causes the useful idiots to clamor for more dragnet.