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Re:UK expands police facial recognition rollout with 10 new ... by potato3732842 on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @11:49AM (#44890031)
The purpose of the system (the police in this casse) is what it does.

Always been that way, always will be. It's just a little harder to bury your head in the sand than it used to be.

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Re:UK expands police facial recognition rollout with 10 new ... by breppp on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @01:03PM (#44891002)
the purpose of circular logic is circular logic
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Re:UK expands police facial recognition rollout with 10 new ... by chongli on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @07:10PM (#44894977)
The purpose of the system (the police in this casse) is what it does.

Nope. That's an ideology, not a statement of fact. It completely negates the possibility that systems can become corrupted (or simply fail) and no longer work towards their original purpose.

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Re:UK expands police facial recognition rollout with 10 new ... by uoaei on Thursday August 14, 2025 @03:19AM (#44897652)
Nope. That's an imposition of metaphysics onto what is solely clearly mere empiricism.
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Re:UK expands police facial recognition rollout with 10 new ... by arrowsmith on Thursday August 14, 2025 @08:27AM (#44899590)
"systems can become corrupted (or simply fail) and no longer work towards their original purpose"

Er, that's exactly what "the purpose of a system is what it does" means.

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Re:UK expands police facial recognition rollout with 10 new ... by chongli on Thursday August 14, 2025 @05:10PM (#44905735)
No, “the purpose of a system is what it does” implies that the original intent of the creators of a system was for it to become corrupted.
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Re:UK expands police facial recognition rollout with 10 new ... by arrowsmith on Thursday August 14, 2025 @05:26PM (#44905892)
That's one way to read the literal meaning of the words, but it's not what the phrase means as originally intended.
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Re:UK expands police facial recognition rollout with 10 new ... by chongli on Thursday August 14, 2025 @05:38PM (#44905998)
Right, but then we apply the phrase to itself and this is what we get!
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Re:UK expands police facial recognition rollout with 10 new ... by immibis on Sunday August 17, 2025 @07:24AM (#44930830)
Nope. You added that extra word "original" in there.
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