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Re:1948: Catholic Church Publishes Final Edition of "Index L... by dkiebd on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @03:06AM (#44885445)
I envy modern Christians for their ability to make up their faith by pretending the scriptures don’t exist. “I was taught that Jesus is love, therefore, if it makes me happy or gives me pleasure it can’t be a sin”
Re:1948: Catholic Church Publishes Final Edition of "Index L... by ysofunny on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @03:12AM (#44885483)
there is no way I gotta stop thinking if your head hurts
Re:1948: Catholic Church Publishes Final Edition of "Index L... by sapphicsnail on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @03:14AM (#44885491)
Imagine thinking that Jesus wants you to be like the legalistic Pharisees of his time.
Re:1948: Catholic Church Publishes Final Edition of "Index L... by dkiebd on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @03:28AM (#44885572)
One has to read the scripture. In many cases we are talking about things that were clearly defined as sins in the scripture. Just read the scripture instead of making up the rules.
Re:1948: Catholic Church Publishes Final Edition of "Index L... by lurquer on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @04:05AM (#44885781)
Are you suggesting the scriptures do not obligate church leaders to protect the flock from heresy?

1 Timothy 6:20–21 – “O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding the profane novelties of words and oppositions of knowledge falsely so called, which some professing have erred concerning the faith.”

2 Timothy 4:3–4 – Warns of people turning from truth to myths, implying leaders must protect them from such influences.

Titus 1:9–11 – Bishops must “stop the mouths” of those teaching error, which includes preventing their works from spreading.

Acts 20:28–31 – Paul warns the Ephesian elders to guard the flock from false teachers who will arise “speaking perverse things.”

2 John 1:10–11 – “If any man come to you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into the house nor say to him, God speed you.”

Romans 16:17 – Mark and avoid those who cause doctrinal divisions; a list of banned works is a formal way of “marking” them.

Acts 19:19 – New converts in Ephesus publicly burn their occult books after coming to the faith.

Deuteronomy 13:1–5 – False prophets and their influence must be eradicated from the midst of the people.

Etc, etc, etc.

Re:1948: Catholic Church Publishes Final Edition of "Index L... by dkiebd on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @04:20AM (#44885863)
Are you giving a list of things that support what I said?
Re:1948: Catholic Church Publishes Final Edition of "Index L... by lurquer on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @05:45AM (#44886430)
Perhaps there was some ambiguity in your post. The verses speak for themselves. If they support your views, good.
Re:1948: Catholic Church Publishes Final Edition of "Index L... by majoe on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @04:57AM (#44886132)
"Just read the scripture" is not enough. Catholics are supposed to use the historical critical method, when interpreting texts from the bible. There are other Christian groups, which take the bible verbatim, but Catholicism is none of them.

For that and other reasons there are plenty of things presented in the old testament as sins, which Christians don't consider to be sins. The most obvious example is probably rules around kosher food.

Re:1948: Catholic Church Publishes Final Edition of "Index L... by graemep on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @06:51AM (#44886863)
> “I was taught that Jesus is love, therefore, if it makes me happy or gives me pleasure it can’t be a sin”

That is a straw man. I am sure you can find some one who says that somewhere out of billions of Christians, but it is effectively something no one says.

Re:1948: Catholic Church Publishes Final Edition of "Index L... by dkiebd on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @11:32AM (#44889808)
They don’t say it literally like that, but they say stuff that boils down to that. People who live wicked lifestyles are tolerated or even celebrated because obviously Jesus loves everybody (He really doesn’t).
Re:1948: Catholic Church Publishes Final Edition of "Index L... by graemep on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @05:42PM (#44894202)
"Love your neighbour as yourself"

Nothing in there about "only if they meet certain moral standards".

I do agree that celebrating people because they do things that contradict Christ teachings (most commonly for accumulating wealth) is wrong.

Re:1948: Catholic Church Publishes Final Edition of "Index L... by dkiebd on Wednesday August 13, 2025 @06:12PM (#44894490)
Everything but reading the scriptures, huh? They are much deeper than “love your neighbour” I can assure you. It’s a thick book.
Re:1948: Catholic Church Publishes Final Edition of "Index L... by 1718627440 on Thursday August 14, 2025 @09:42AM (#44900273)
I think the meaning of love in christianity is very different from what more secular people think it is. For example it does not preclude sending someone to prison. Christianity has a very well defined and categorized (sexos/eros/philia/agape) understanding of love. It is also not a feeling.

> "Love your neighbour as yourself"

That is a very important part of that understanding of the meaning of love. While it also means that you love your neighbour in any circumstance, it importantly says that you should love the neighbour in the same way you love yourself. You love yourself even when you know you are evil and should die.

The stance of the (catholic) church is that you should damn the sin and love the sinner.

Re:1948: Catholic Church Publishes Final Edition of "Index L... by 1718627440 on Thursday August 14, 2025 @09:30AM (#44900162)
While I agree with you that it is wrong, I can assure you it's quite a common stance among our 68-influenced priests, referents and teachers inside the "catholic" church. They will happily contradict the official stance of the catholic church and still claim to be true catholics (and everyone else is just from yesterday). But then again, I think that is a large reason, why church membership is shrinking drastically in my country, while in our also western neighbors it is rising again.