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Re:Training language models to be warm and empathetic makes ... by porphyra on Tuesday August 12, 2025 @01:07PM (#44879110)
Meanwhile, tons of people on reddit's /r/ChatGPT were complaining that the shift from ChatGPT 4o to ChatGPT 5 resulted in terse responses instead of waxing lyrical to praise the user. It seems that many people actually became emotionally dependent on the constant praise.
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Re:Training language models to be warm and empathetic makes ... by mhuffman on Tuesday August 12, 2025 @03:47PM (#44881044)
The folks over on /r/MyBoyfriendIsAI seem to be in an absolute shambles over the change .

[0] reddit.com/r/MyBoyfriendIsAI/

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Re:Training language models to be warm and empathetic makes ... by dingnuts on Tuesday August 12, 2025 @01:09PM (#44879155)
if those users were exposed to the full financial cost of their toy they would find other toys
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Re:Training language models to be warm and empathetic makes ... by zeta0134 on Tuesday August 12, 2025 @02:04PM (#44879804)
And what is that cost, if you have it handy? Just as an example, my Radeon VII can perfectly well run smaller models, and it doesn't appear to use more power than about two incandescent lightbulbs (120 W or so) while the query is running. I don't personally feel that the power consumed by approximately two light bulbs is excessive, even using the admittedly outdated incandescent standard, but perhaps the commercial models are worse?

Like I know a datacenter draws a lot more power, but it also serves many many more users concurrently, so economies of scale ought to factor in. I'd love to see some hard numbers on this.

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Re:Training language models to be warm and empathetic makes ... by derefr on Tuesday August 12, 2025 @02:45PM (#44880269)
IIRC you can actually get the same kind of hollow praise from much dumber, locally-runnable (~8B parameters) models.
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Re:Training language models to be warm and empathetic makes ... by PeterStuer on Tuesday August 12, 2025 @01:31PM (#44879418)
The same 'kings' and 'queens' that grew up in in the cushy glow of a mountain of participation trophies?
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Re:Training language models to be warm and empathetic makes ... by astrange on Tuesday August 12, 2025 @05:50PM (#44882200)
GPT5 isn't much more terse for me, but they gave it a new equally annoying writing style where it writes in all-lowercase like an SF tech twitter user on ketamine.

https://chatgpt.com/share/689bb705-986c-8000-bca5-c5be27b0d0...

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Re:Training language models to be warm and empathetic makes ... by Eduard on Tuesday August 12, 2025 @07:13PM (#44882861)
> https://chatgpt.com/share/689bb705-986c-8000-bca5-c5be27b0d0...

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