Re:Wikimedia Foundation Challenges UK Online Safety Act Regu...
by AlecSchueler on Monday August 11, 2025 @01:31PM
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There are any number of criticisms I would happily join you in directing at the British parliamentaey system but I don't think relying on American businesses to pressure the government would actually be the win for democracy you seem to suggest?
Re:Wikimedia Foundation Challenges UK Online Safety Act Regu...
by arrowsmith on Monday August 11, 2025 @02:06PM
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I didn't say anything prescriptive, I'm just disputing your use of the word "democratic".
Re:Wikimedia Foundation Challenges UK Online Safety Act Regu...
by AlecSchueler on Monday August 11, 2025 @02:09PM
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For all it's issues I think you would be hard pressed to argue that the United Kingdom isn't a democracy in the common sense of the term.
Re:Wikimedia Foundation Challenges UK Online Safety Act Regu...
by johnnyanmac on Monday August 11, 2025 @02:43PM
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For all it's issues, it's practically bad faith to argue that the UK is a democracy in the spirit of the term. I believe that's how the EU works with law?
Oh yeah, they left that.
Re:Wikimedia Foundation Challenges UK Online Safety Act Regu...
by AlecSchueler on Monday August 11, 2025 @03:21PM
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I have no idea what this means.
Re:Wikimedia Foundation Challenges UK Online Safety Act Regu...
by johnnyanmac on Monday August 11, 2025 @04:41PM
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Representives not representing their constituents makes democracy a sham. If you think representatives as of late are acting in good faith, I question yours.
Re:Wikimedia Foundation Challenges UK Online Safety Act Regu...
by anigbrowl on Monday August 11, 2025 @07:11PM
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None of this is responsive to the specific criticisms made, and nor are the follow-up replies.
Re:Wikimedia Foundation Challenges UK Online Safety Act Regu...
by foldr on Tuesday August 12, 2025 @07:20AM
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The Brexit referendum ought to have shut up the “your vote doesn’t make any difference” folks forever (regardless of whether or not they were in favor of Brexit). But they tend to have short memories.
Re:Wikimedia Foundation Challenges UK Online Safety Act Regu...
by phatfish on Tuesday August 12, 2025 @11:01AM
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Someone doesn't know the difference between a simple majority referendum and a parliamentary election result.
Re:Wikimedia Foundation Challenges UK Online Safety Act Regu...
by foldr on Tuesday August 12, 2025 @03:48PM
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>elections don't change anything no matter who wins [not you, but who I was responding to]
The Brexit referendum was in the 2015 Conservative party manifesto [1]. If Labour had won the 2015 election then there would have been no referendum and the UK would still be in the EU. Or if people had voted differently in the referendum, the UK would still be in the EU.
The person I was responding to suggests that elections have never changed anything in the UK within their lifetime. Unless they are less than 10 years old, this is clearly false.
[1] https://www.theresavilliers.co.uk/files/conservativemanifest... (p. 30)
Also, no-one asked for this bill, both parties support it, it received basically no debate or scrutiny and was presented as a fait accompli. Where's the democracy exactly?