Re:After 35 years, Voyager nears edge of solar system
by danielweber on Thursday September 06, 2012 @10:28AM
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Query: how do you define "subsonic" in the near-vacuum of spce?
Re:After 35 years, Voyager nears edge of solar system
by jessriedel on Thursday September 06, 2012 @11:22AM
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As you probably know, the "speed of sound" in an arbitrary medium is just the speed at which disturbances in pressure propagate. For this to be well-defined, the particles have to collide with each other often enough for there to be collective disturbances (rather than just individual fast moving particles). I would have thought that there was so much distance between particles in interstellar space that they never collided, but apparently there are often enough collisions to define a notion of sound. Here's wikipedia:
> The shock arises because solar wind particles are emitted from stars at about 400 km/s, while the speed of sound (in the interstellar medium) is about 100 km/s. (The exact speed depends on the density, which fluctuates considerably.) The interstellar medium, although very low in density, nonetheless has a constant pressure associated with it; the pressure from the solar wind decreases with the square of the distance from the star. As one moves far enough away from the star, the pressure from the interstellar medium becomes sufficient to slow the solar wind down to below its speed of sound; this causes a shock wave.
Re:After 35 years, Voyager nears edge of solar system
by anovikov on Monday September 10, 2012 @12:02PM
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Just curious why the speed of sound in interstellar medium depends on density, while in the Earth atmosphere, it does not (it is nearly same as on surface, around 10% smaller, on 100,000ft where there is hardly 2% of surface air pressure).
Re:After 35 years, Voyager nears edge of solar system
by mrcharles on Thursday September 06, 2012 @10:46AM
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When you can hear it, duh.
Re:After 35 years, Voyager nears edge of solar system
by dennisgorelik on Thursday September 06, 2012 @09:58PM
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Could it be that definition of edge of the solar system would change in such a way that Voyager would always be nearing its border?
The one you probably heard about was the termination shock, where the solar wind goes subsonic. I forget how far out that is, but it's closer than the heliopause.
From the graphs of radiation intensity, Voyager is either in a big bubble of interstellar space trapped in the heliopause, or actually through and out the other side. It's exciting either way.