And? You would have flown to the US? That "beacon of freedom and liberalism"? Where people get put in jail for overstaying 2 days of visa? And people get kidnapped in the street?

That's really your dream?

We're MUCH better in our European democracies. And they work better BECAUSE we have less inequalities, and BECAUSE people who made money have to pay their fair share of taxes so it benefits everyone, rather than just corrupting the politicians in order to build their "DOGE" bullshit

US as destination is so unrealistic that I'd never really considered it. Also this was about leaving Germany, not necessarily leaving Europe.

maybe better in terms of overall living standards but not in terms of innovation or the state being friendly to someone running a business

well what matters in the end is living standard. Innovation is cool, but it's pointless if it is to serve a stupid fascist society

the OP is about the difficulty of running a business in germany, not living standards. And what matters is always subjective

> Where people get put in jail for overstaying 2 days of visa?

My wet dream for Europe.

I would rather live/work in the US than Germany . I lived almost my whole life in Germany

Why do you consider leaving? Where would you rather live?

Lack of confidence in future economic improvement.

A place where I could blend in which rules out the kind of obvious and otherwise excellent choices in Asia.

> Lack of confidence in future economic improvement.

Germany is still the 3rd biggest economy worldwide. If you want to stay in Europe (as per your other comment) and future economic improvement is your biggest concern, I don't see a benefit in moving anywhere else.

"still" is the keyword. No intention to walk into disaster with eyes wide open.

How do you intend to avoid this disaster you see on the horizon?

Europe currently runs on inertia. The EC is killing pretty much everything with over-regulation.

We don't have AI in Europe (don't get me started about Mistral) but we have AI regulation.

Don’t forget the energy suicide Germany has committed. Cheap energy was the backbone of Germanys rich industrial economy, and that rug has been (allowed and even encouraged) to be pulled by none other than the country now offering them a “very good price” on LNG…

Did you miss the Russo-Ukrainian war? Or are you suggesting that we (Europeans) should have continued pumping cash into Russia for a bunch of gas?

No, but I think that diplomacy layer did a horrible job in stopping that conflict early. They signed the Minsk agreements just to ignore them later

I think what they were referring to Germany phasing out nuclear power.

In 2011 Germany had 17 active nuclear power plants. They closed their last one in 2023.

You still are, and more than you've sent to help Ukraine. I was mostly talking nuclear power shutdowns btw. Meanwhile, vital German heavy industry has already started shutting down.

> I was mostly talking nuclear power shutdowns btw.

There is some confusion here: the issue is not necessarily about pure electrical power alone. You need oil and oil based products for most of the things (plastics, fabrics etc.).

> Or are you suggesting that we (Europeans) should have continued pumping cash into Russia for a bunch of gas?

Unpopular opinion these days, but yes. A government's duty is first and foremost to its citizens. Anyone else comes last.