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Re:GPT-5 by jacquesm on Thursday August 07, 2025 @02:51PM (#44828788)
The difference isn't so much that you can do what a human can do. The difference is that you can - once you can do it at all - do it almost arbitrarily fast by upping the clock or running things in parallel and that changes the equation considerably, especially if you can get that kind of energy coupled into some kind of feedback loop.

For now the humans are winning on two dimensions: problem complexity and power consumption. It had better stay that way.

Re:GPT-5 by foobiekr on Thursday August 07, 2025 @05:24PM (#44830546)
Have you noticed the performance of the actual AI tools we are actually using?
Re:GPT-5 by jacquesm on Thursday August 07, 2025 @07:55PM (#44831852)
If you actually have a point to make you should make it. Of course I've actually noticed the actual performance of the 'actual' AI tools we are 'actually' using.

That's not what this is about. Performance is the one thing in computing that has fairly consistently gone up over time. If something is human equivalent today, or some appreciable fraction thereof - which it isn't, not yet, anyway - then you can place a pretty safe bet that in a couple of years it will be faster than that. Model efficiency is under constant development and in a roundabout way I'm pretty happy that it is as bad as it is because I do not think that our societies are ready to absorb the next blow against the structures that we've built. But it most likely will not stay that way because there are several Manhattan level projects under way to bring this about, it is our age's atomic bomb. The only difference is that with the atomic bomb we knew that it was possible, we just didn't know how small you could make one. Unfortunately it turned out to be that yes, you can make them and nicely packaged for delivery by missile, airplane or artillery.

If AGI is a possibility then we may well find it, quite possibly not on the basis of LLMs but it's close enough that lots of people treat it as though we're already there.