News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Fast by SchemaLoad on Thursday July 31, 2025 @02:04AM (#44742769)
Sounds like a slot machine. Insert api tokens, get something that's pretty close to right, insert more tokens and hope it works this time.
Re:Fast by resonious on Thursday July 31, 2025 @03:38AM (#44743319)
Except the tokens you insert have meaning, and some yield better results than others. Not like a slot machine at all, really. Last I checked, those only have 1 possible input.
Re:Fast by saagarjha on Thursday July 31, 2025 @05:00AM (#44743750)
Ok so it's poker rather than a slot machine
Re:Fast by resonious on Thursday July 31, 2025 @05:12AM (#44743802)
Yes I accept this analogy!
Re:Fast by kmacdough on Thursday July 31, 2025 @05:42AM (#44743973)
Not really, it's not a zero-sum game. You're not competing against anything, you're working with something. It's just a tool that takes practice, has some variability and isn't free. Like most things in life. More like buying corn or having friends.
Re:Fast by speed_spread on Thursday July 31, 2025 @07:24AM (#44744491)
Poker takes practice, has variability and isn't free. In fact it's the only game I know of that's pointlessly boring without money on the table.

LLM workflow is competing with other ways of writing code. DIY, stack overflow, paired, offshored...

Re:Fast by TimTheTinker on Thursday July 31, 2025 @08:07AM (#44744792)
> pointlessly boring without money on the table.

I bought a bunch of poker chips and taught Texas Hold'em to my kids. We have a fantastic time playing with no money on the line, just winning or losing the game based on who wins all the chips.

Re:Fast by speed_spread on Thursday July 31, 2025 @08:23AM (#44744906)
Give them enough time and they'll realize they can trade poker chips for other things.
Re:Fast by Aeolun on Thursday July 31, 2025 @07:26AM (#44744501)
That’s fine if your expectations are consummate.
Re:Fast by PaulHoule on Thursday July 31, 2025 @10:03AM (#44745767)
How's that different from a human developer? Give the same task to different developers and you'll get different levels of correctness and quality. Give the task to the same developer on different days and it is the same.
Re:Fast by amradio1989 on Thursday July 31, 2025 @01:18PM (#44747820)
Its a lot faster to give a task to an ai agent than a developer. The agent is always at their desk, always listening, and will immediately prioritize whatever you tell it to do.

An ai agent always has capacity, does not have competing priorities, nor does it have ideas about what does or does not fall within their "scope of work".