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Re:Study finds organic food no more nutritive than non-organic by Turing_Machine on Monday September 03, 2012 @08:54PM (#4472536)
Which is also nonsense.

Animals raised without antibiotics and vaccinations carry a horde of diseases.

Re:Study finds organic food no more nutritive than non-organic by sprocket on Monday September 03, 2012 @10:48PM (#4472830)
This is a ridiculous assertion.

First of all, "organic farming" doesn't preclude you from treating sick animals with antibiotics, if necessary, nor does it prevent you from vaccinating. (Sick animals are required to be held back for a specified period before entering the food chain.) What it does attempt to prevent is animals being fed prophylactic antibiotics, which is a major cause of antibiotic resistant bacterial strains.

Second, organically raised animals are not festering with disease. My wife and I have hundreds of healthy, organically raised animals on our farm. For example, in the last summer we have grown, processed and sold over 500 chickens which we have lost ZERO to illness.

Animals raised in humane, low stress (and the low stress is key) situations GET SICK VERY INFREQUENTLY. It's in situations where they are concentrated in industrial settings (ie. chicken broiler barns or cattle feed lots) that the stress kicks in, suppresses immune system function and you end up with sick animals that get fed antibiotics to cover up the symptoms.

Re:Study finds organic food no more nutritive than non-organic by Turing_Machine on Tuesday September 04, 2012 @10:05AM (#4474551)
Your anecdote does not trump data.

Sorry.

Re:Study finds organic food no more nutritive than non-organic by sprocket on Tuesday September 04, 2012 @10:45AM (#4474758)
I welcome any data that you care to provide.
Re:Study finds organic food no more nutritive than non-organic by encoderer on Monday September 03, 2012 @09:14PM (#4472587)
Such as?

I'm far from an expert but this has been an interest of mine for years -- deeper than just watching Food, Inc.

You're right that livestock in feedlots carry awful diseases. But in proper conditions--you could even say humane conditions--they don't inherently carry any more diseases than you or I.

I mean, what are you arguing for exactly? That we shouldn't use natural sources of NPK? Try your hand at explaining that.

Re:Study finds organic food no more nutritive than non-organic by Turing_Machine on Monday September 03, 2012 @09:22PM (#4472618)
"they don't inherently carry any more diseases than you or I."

I don't eat crops fertilized with human feces, either.

"That we shouldn't use natural sources of NPK? Try your hand at explaining that."

I don't like famines that kill millions of people.

Re:Study finds organic food no more nutritive than non-organic by encoderer on Monday September 03, 2012 @09:56PM (#4472704)
Do you think there's no natural manure fertilizer on your crops? You've got an interesting argument here. You're against organic food because it's more likely to spread bacteria and parasites? But you've not really offered any facts, just blanket statements. I'm going to bow-out of this now -- apologize if I'm reading this wrong but this all seems too trollish for my tastes.
Re:Study finds organic food no more nutritive than non-organic by Turing_Machine on Monday September 03, 2012 @10:15PM (#4472740)
I've provided links for everything. You've provided none.

A couple more:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines

Note how few of these occurred in countries with industrialized agriculture (the exceptions being cause by war devastation or the like).

https://www.google.com/search?q=percentage+of+population+in+...

Numerous sources demonstrating that pre-industrial farming resulted in 90-odd percent of the population being peasants.

Re:Study finds organic food no more nutritive than non-organic by Turing_Machine on Monday September 03, 2012 @09:33PM (#4472654)
I also don't think I'd care to live in a world where 90+% of us were illiterate peasants bound to the soil (serfs if we were lucky, slaves if not), spending our entire lives on hand-cultivation of crops.

That was the norm essentially everywhere on the planet right up until the development of modern, mechanized agriculture.

Re:Study finds organic food no more nutritive than non-organic by Turing_Machine on Monday September 03, 2012 @09:12PM (#4472583)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoonosis#Partial_list_of_zoonos...

Click through a few of these and note how many of them are spread by animals in living in a low density, no antibiotics, natural diet environment.