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Re:Claude Code weekly rate limits by sneak on Monday July 28, 2025 @07:14PM (#44716922)
We can and did work without it. It just makes us many times faster.

Nothing about using an LLM removes skills and abilities you already had before it.

Re:Claude Code weekly rate limits by 3836293648 on Monday July 28, 2025 @08:18PM (#44717487)
For the industry as a whole it absolutely does. And for the individual it absolutely does kill your ability to do it unless you actually do practice.

And yes, the goal might be to only use it for boilerplate or first draft. But that's today, people are lazy, just wait for the you of tomorrow

Re:Claude Code weekly rate limits by epolanski on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @02:33AM (#44719794)
> And for the individual it absolutely does kill your ability to do it unless you actually do practice.

Just because you state it, it doesn't make it true. I could tell you that taking buses or robotaxis doesn't change a bit your ability to drive.

Re:Claude Code weekly rate limits by forty on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @03:54AM (#44720384)
Depends how often you do drive. I can guarantee you that not driving absolutely affected my ability to drive (I can still drive but certainly not nearly as well as if I drove daily)
Re:Claude Code weekly rate limits by 3836293648 on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @07:59PM (#44729622)
Are you seriously claiming that not driving has no affect on your ability to drive?

Taking a bus sometimes is fine, but that is missing literally the entire point that I made.

Re:Claude Code weekly rate limits by umbra07 on Monday July 28, 2025 @08:29PM (#44717565)
If you don't use a skill, it atrophies.

Now, maybe that is the future (no more/extremely little human-written code). Maybe that's a good thing in the same way that "x technological advancement means y skill is no longer necessary" - like how the advent of readily-accessible live maps means you don't need to memorize street intersections and directions or whatever. But it is true.

Re:Claude Code weekly rate limits by brookst on Monday July 28, 2025 @09:30PM (#44717946)
I am terrible at computing sine and cosine, for sure. It doesn’t bother me.
Re:Claude Code weekly rate limits by zelphirkalt on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @09:27AM (#44723085)
On the surface, this comparison might hold, but when you look at software development as a craft, and therefore containing aspects of creativity and art, the comparison no longer holds.
Re:Claude Code weekly rate limits by brookst on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @12:18PM (#44725218)
Interesting take. So AI is the Ikea-ization of software, producing far cheaper / lower quality / less durable / more accessible product that is completely good enough for most people, but unacceptable to those who have the expertise to do it themselves, or the wealth to not care about price?
Re:Claude Code weekly rate limits by hoppp on Monday July 28, 2025 @09:28PM (#44717932)
My experience was that reviewing generated code can take longer than writing it from scratch.

There was research about vibe coding that had similar conclusion. Feels productive but can take longer to review.

the moment you generate code you don't instantly understand you are better off reading the docs and writing it yourself

Re:Claude Code weekly rate limits by 14123newsletter on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @02:06AM (#44719602)
>Nothing about using an LLM removes skills and abilities you already had before it.

Funny story: The widespread of Knorr soup stock already made people unable to cook their own stock soup, or even worse, the skill to season their soup from just basic, fresh ingredients.

Source: my mom.

Re:Claude Code weekly rate limits by windexh8er on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @02:58AM (#44719984)
I'm always surprised when people buy vegetable stock. So many people I know cook "from scratch" with base ingredients like stock out of a box.

And just as with cooking: most people won't care - and the same goes with LLMs. It can be good enough... Less efficient? Meh - cloud. AI slop image? Meh - cheaper than paying an artist. LLMs to get kids through school? Meh - something something school-of-life.

I look around and see many poorly educated people leaning hard into LLMs. These people are confusing parroting their prompt output as knowledge, especially in the education realm. And while LLMs may not "remove skills and abilities you already had before it" - you damn sure will lose any edge you had over time. It's a slippery slope of trading a honed skill for convenience. And in some cases that may be a worthwhile trade. In others that is a disaster waiting to happen.