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Re:Visa and Mastercard are getting overwhelmed by gamer fury... by pembrook on Monday July 28, 2025 @03:30PM (#44714555)
The fundamental issue is the existence of an iron clad monopoly of 2 payment providers.

It’s a choke point on the entire economy for any sufficiently motivated interest group that wants to ban something that would otherwise be legal…lobbying a few executives at Visa/Mastercard to shut off the taps is much easier than lobbying government to pass a law.

With no mandated open protocol for (legal) payments or legal protections like the internet has, this will continue to be a problem and will only get worse.

Ultimately I think digital payments should be facilitated on government rails just like cash is. Where any decision to block a payment should be determined by law, and require actual skin in the game from elected representatives who are fireable by their constituents.

Re:Visa and Mastercard are getting overwhelmed by gamer fury... by mistercheph on Monday July 28, 2025 @04:10PM (#44714995)
Bitcoin
Re:Visa and Mastercard are getting overwhelmed by gamer fury... by shrell on Monday July 28, 2025 @04:13PM (#44715038)
This would end up with the exact same problem when people found the processing time unreasonable.
Re:Visa and Mastercard are getting overwhelmed by gamer fury... by mistercheph on Monday July 28, 2025 @04:20PM (#44715115)
Lightning
Re:Visa and Mastercard are getting overwhelmed by gamer fury... by shrell on Monday July 28, 2025 @07:49PM (#44717244)
For the average person wont this just change to the leading custodians having the near monopoly similar to the exchanges or how credit card providers were before becoming what we have today?
Re:Visa and Mastercard are getting overwhelmed by gamer fury... by koakuma-chan on Monday July 28, 2025 @06:00PM (#44716232)
Why downvoted?
Re:Visa and Mastercard are getting overwhelmed by gamer fury... by Workaccount2 on Monday July 28, 2025 @05:17PM (#44715775)
I have had running ideas for creating a credit card company for about a year now. It's an idea my head keeps wandering back into. The system is so ripe for disruption.

But the start-up costs are mind-bogglingly insane, and the organizations best equipped to help you with capital and/or navigation are the very organizations you would be rug pulling in some way or another.

Re:Visa and Mastercard are getting overwhelmed by gamer fury... by averageRoyalty on Monday July 28, 2025 @07:56PM (#44717300)
> The system is so ripe for disruption.

Is it? Assuming nobody opposed you, you'd need to convince merchants to have a different payment terminal and train staff on it. You'd need to convince POS providers to provide an integration. You'd need to convince banks to allow your card to be accessible in their systems (or find an alternative way for your customers to pay their card). Once this is done you have to convince people to become your customers for a card that only works in some scenarios.

Assuming absolutely everyone felt neutral about this, what's the incentive for any of the above parties to say yes? For everyone involved it seems to be a lot of work for little benefit.

Re:Visa and Mastercard are getting overwhelmed by gamer fury... by Khaine on Monday July 28, 2025 @07:22PM (#44717005)
It has nothing about it being a duopoly, it has to do with the fact that governments have deputised payment processors and banks to regulate payments.
Re:Visa and Mastercard are getting overwhelmed by gamer fury... by pembrook on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @05:45AM (#44721226)
They haven’t been deputized, in fact the opposite.

When they block a payment it’s typically due to some interest group threatening bad PR hit pieces on them.

If you’re running a duopoly money printer, the worst thing that can happen is to have people realizing it and talking about it.

Hence why you’ll never hear an ad from Mastercard or Visa touting the dominance of their payment networks or even trying to sell you their products. It’s always brand-washing PR fluff about saving whales or Olympic ice skaters.