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Re:Women dating safety app 'Tea' breached, users' IDs posted... by mullingitover on Saturday July 26, 2025 @02:04AM (#44691759)
It’s hilarious that we earnestly debate whether women should be allowed to have a space to speak anonymously about whatever the hell they want, but it’s completely unquestioned that 4chan is a perfectly legal operation.
Re:Women dating safety app 'Tea' breached, users' IDs posted... by josteink on Saturday July 26, 2025 @03:44AM (#44692219)
I guess a significant difference is than 4chan is fully public. Whatever anyone says there can be observed by anyone and refuted by anyone. You can’t secretly slander anyone there.

What happened on the tea app were probably not knowable, observable or refutable for those actually being doxxed or slandered.

That isn’t me saying 4chan is absolutely morally in the clear, but it’s still quite a significant distinction.

Re:Women dating safety app 'Tea' breached, users' IDs posted... by fn-mote on Saturday July 26, 2025 @04:15AM (#44692359)
The difference _for you_ is in the public or private nature.

It seems like your argument is based on (1) the discussion being slander (assumption); and (2) the idea that you could refute it if it were public (good luck, low credibility, also most men would immediately respond with vulgar name calling and - at least if anonymous - threats).

Re:Women dating safety app 'Tea' breached, users' IDs posted... by Yeul on Saturday July 26, 2025 @05:00AM (#44692576)
Men get incredibly upset when their sexual privileges are questioned.
Re:Women dating safety app 'Tea' breached, users' IDs posted... by John-117 on Saturday July 26, 2025 @10:00AM (#44694145)
Men do not believe they have "sexual privileges". There is an entire community (I'm sure quite active on this website) of men who are notorious for not being able to have sex with anyone. Let me correct that statement for you.

Men get upset when they are, as a policy, unable to view the (not fact checked) things being said about them in a public internet forum.

Re:Women dating safety app 'Tea' breached, users' IDs posted... by Der_Einzige on Saturday July 26, 2025 @10:12AM (#44694230)
Like the privilege to have their foreskin cut at birth en mass? Or the privilege to forever be mocked for purchasing sex toys? Is it the privilege of de facto not being allowed to admit your bisexual to most female partners?
Re:Women dating safety app 'Tea' breached, users' IDs posted... by jrockway on Saturday July 26, 2025 @12:23PM (#44695215)
I mean, you can't get pregnant and your sex hormone gives you stronger muscles by default. This gives you a little bit more control over sexual interactions; fewer lasting consequences, more control over how situations go.

I am not sure what problems you've run into purchasing sex toys. The retail outlets that sell them certainly don't seem to care who buys them, so I'm guessing you're upset with some past partner that didn't want them used without discussing it in advance? Just discuss it in advance and realize that sometimes your partner is going to say "no" to your desires. It's a partnership, not a dictatorship. There are going to be limits. As for being bi, again... what are the circumstances? This doesn't seem to be a universal problem. Lots of people are bi. We are largely having a good time.

Re:Women dating safety app 'Tea' breached, users' IDs posted... by Der_Einzige on Saturday July 26, 2025 @01:23PM (#44695638)
The idea that a post must be projection and not recognition of a societal problem is wrong, worse, it's exactly this kind of rhetoric which radicalizes young men and pushes them towards anti-feminism. The hollier-than-thou "everyone who sees problems in the world has internal problems" belief. It's the "hurt people hurt people" shit that makes blue-hairs say "who hurt you" to their adversaries. You don't know me. Don't act like you do.

I'm not complaining about some interpersonal issues, I'm complaining at how society treats men who purchase sex toys writ large. You trying to deny this is happening is misandry and you need to check your privilege stat before you commit a mortal sin against social justice.

1. https://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandculture/article/28948/1/...

2. https://everydayfeminism.com/2015/12/the-male-sex-toy-stigma...

Or about the widespread experience of purportedly accepting female partners getting the "ick" from male bisexuality.

1. https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/love-sex/relationships/a2740...

2. https://bi.org/en/articles/bi-men-are-not-considered-attract...

3. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskFeminists/comments/1i2eoog/women...

4. https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bisexual-men-dating-wom...

Re:Women dating safety app 'Tea' breached, users' IDs posted... by jrockway on Saturday July 26, 2025 @04:11PM (#44696619)
I deny that it's a problem. Young men have invented some sense of how women should treat them, and women seem to disagree. The logical conclusion is that their theory is wrong, but this is the last place that demographic seems to want to go. Ban women from having jobs! Ban women's healthcare! This, it turns out, doesn't make us like men more.

Misandry is a bullshit concept created by the manosphere. The Wikipedia article literally says as much. Women are not systematically oppressing men. Go find any conspiracy theory about who is running the world. None of them are ever women. (George Soros, Elon Musk, etc. etc.) I have lived as both genders and I have to tell you, you do not get much benefit of the doubt as a woman. Look at how you're talking to me now! Do you talk to men like that?

I'm willing to concede your point that society is homophobic. Everyone is awash in propaganda that the only valid relationship is one between a man and a woman, and it hurts if that's not what you feel and it's what other people expect you to feel. People are largely under-educated and make no effort to look beyond the propaganda, keeping themselves in the closet for decades over this sort of thing (hi!). I am guessing from your use of the term "blue-hairs" that you don't identify as "queer" but it's something you should probably try on for size. I bet that in a more queer-friendly community, being bi doesn't give many people "the ick". But among cishet folks? I can definitely see that.

Re:Women dating safety app 'Tea' breached, users' IDs posted... by FirmwareBurner on Saturday July 26, 2025 @07:18AM (#44693184)
>women should be allowed to have a space to speak anonymously

It was only anonymous for the women speaking there, but not for the men they were speaking about, hence the justified outrage, since strangers are gossiping/slandering you in a public online space behind a 2$ entry fee.

Would you also support if men had their own such public "safe spaces" to gossip anonymously about real women with their names? I can assure you it would be shut down immediately.

So then why do we allow double standards? I thought we were supposed to have gender equality?

Re:Women dating safety app 'Tea' breached, users' IDs posted... by akerl_ on Saturday July 26, 2025 @08:41AM (#44693685)
So your concern is that it’s paywalled?

Because like the earlier comment points out, letting anonymous people trash talk real people and name them is a core feature of 4chan.

Re:Women dating safety app 'Tea' breached, users' IDs posted... by John-117 on Saturday July 26, 2025 @09:55AM (#44694119)
The concern is that it is exclusive to only women, not only allowing, but encouraging them to post narratives about men who are not allowed on the app by policy. How is anyone going to verify the truth of these claims except the man, who is not allowed to look?
Re:Women dating safety app 'Tea' breached, users' IDs posted... by smeeger on Saturday July 26, 2025 @09:59AM (#44694138)
no its not. 4chan is meant to be ephemeral. threads vanish quickly and they arent archived by 4chan.org. you cannot search the website for peoples names and there is no data structure for finding and contributing to a “file” on individual people. and when doxxing of anyone especially a woman occurs it is taken down by any mod who notices it because it could create a huge legal headache. so youre literally completely wrong. weird
Re:Women dating safety app 'Tea' breached, users' IDs posted... by mullingitover on Saturday July 26, 2025 @09:32PM (#44698203)
> why do we allow double standards

Yeah, why do we allow them.

Women: Notoriously prone to gossip.

Men: Notoriously prone to murdering romantic partners (most women who are victims of homicide are killed by a current or former romantic partner).

People on the internet: It's these gossiping women who are the problem.

Re:Women dating safety app 'Tea' breached, users' IDs posted... by tptacek on Saturday July 26, 2025 @08:47AM (#44693717)
I'm not earnestly debating anything but the definition of libel, which I doubt applies to this app.
Re:Women dating safety app 'Tea' breached, users' IDs posted... by smeeger on Saturday July 26, 2025 @09:55AM (#44694116)
tea is more akin to kiwi farms than 4chan and kiwi farms is controversial even among incels
Re:Women dating safety app 'Tea' breached, users' IDs posted... by sigwinch on Saturday July 26, 2025 @11:19AM (#44694760)
Well, no. You could implement Tea as a ?chan and everyone knows what it’s for. When you make an app that attests to reputation, expect smart people to contradict your claims about enhancing personal safety and security.
Re:Women dating safety app 'Tea' breached, users' IDs posted... by boppo1 on Saturday July 26, 2025 @01:02PM (#44695493)
Women never lie
Re:Women dating safety app 'Tea' breached, users' IDs posted... by laughing_man on Saturday July 26, 2025 @07:17PM (#44697667)
This is more Silk Road than 4chan.

The problem isn't that the site is anonymous. The problem is I, as a man, have no way to check to see if it contains false or defamatory information about me because you can't sign up as a man.

I have no problem with anonymity. But this site exists to allow spiteful women to break the law.