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Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by bogzz on Thursday July 24, 2025 @03:47PM (#44675189)
Well my boss is in a cabin in the wilderness somewhere and his only access to the internet is via Starling, so that's great news!
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by delichon on Thursday July 24, 2025 @03:50PM (#44675226)
I've heard of IP over pigeons, but using starlings is innovative.
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by quirk on Thursday July 24, 2025 @04:08PM (#44675424)
Notorious for dropping packets.
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by ta1243 on Thursday July 24, 2025 @04:10PM (#44675439)
RFC 2549 was written to cope with that
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by hedora on Thursday July 24, 2025 @05:05PM (#44676130)
That’s what those are? The internet truly is a filthy place.
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by jvm___ on Thursday July 24, 2025 @06:00PM (#44676830)
African or European packets
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by cozzyd on Friday July 25, 2025 @12:12AM (#44679525)
That's why you should use Turkey Clutch Protocol rather than Unladen Duck Protocol.
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by ronsor on Thursday July 24, 2025 @03:53PM (#44675259)
Starling is just the product name. It's still IPoAC under the hood.
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by arm32 on Thursday July 24, 2025 @04:58PM (#44676040)
Wrong. His actual name is Jimbob, and he's a pretty bird.
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by cardamomo on Thursday July 24, 2025 @03:56PM (#44675293)
We've got a family of nuthatches that set up an extensive neighborhood mesh network. Quite impressive!
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by bogzz on Thursday July 24, 2025 @03:53PM (#44675254)
Falcon-related packet loss is a recurring issue.
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by Rooster61 on Thursday July 24, 2025 @04:08PM (#44675420)
This is even funnier when you imagine Falcon rockets running into Starlink satellites
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by slater on Thursday July 24, 2025 @03:55PM (#44675274)
A small price to pay in return for speed increase!
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by throwaway889900 on Thursday July 24, 2025 @04:17PM (#44675522)
Sometimes you have to keep repeating a packet, they're very good at it.
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by RamRodification on Thursday July 24, 2025 @03:53PM (#44675256)
Quid pro quo, Clarice
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by eitally on Thursday July 24, 2025 @04:28PM (#44675683)
Learn something new every day! I had never heard of RFC 1149[1] and was only familiar with Pigeonrank[2], another short-lived product.

[1] https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1149 [2] https://archive.google/pigeonrank/

Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by anjel on Thursday July 24, 2025 @04:38PM (#44675802)
Starlings are lower bandwidth than pigeons
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by Tade0 on Thursday July 24, 2025 @04:45PM (#44675874)
They're reliable, provided there's a cherry tree orchard at the destination.
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by hk1337 on Thursday July 24, 2025 @04:56PM (#44676019)
Their Starlord is the key to keeping them on task.
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by hdgvhicv on Friday July 25, 2025 @03:27AM (#44680551)
Who?
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by anonymousiam on Thursday July 24, 2025 @06:36PM (#44677144)
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by ahazred8ta on Thursday July 24, 2025 @09:55PM (#44678605)
The RFC-1149 pigeon protocol has its own theme song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIzLlODqyCE
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by asadotzler on Thursday July 24, 2025 @04:46PM (#44675885)
I too am in the wilderness and Starlink is my only broadband, but I was smart enough to keep my 1.5Mbps WISP connection (radio mounted 170' up one of my redwoods) so I'm still in good shape for basic communication, even some streaming and videoconferencing, though those aren't great this morning.

Also, after my Starlink terminal rebooted a few times on its own over the last hour or so, things are looking good again.

Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by sakopov on Thursday July 24, 2025 @05:07PM (#44676160)
Are you using something like a CradlePoint for your WISP?
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by galaxy_gas on Thursday July 24, 2025 @05:28PM (#44676425)
If it 1,5 Mb and radio mount on a tower I would more guessing toward the side of PTP line of sight Link or such Mikrotik, Unifi instead of cellular cradlepoint.
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by esseph on Thursday July 24, 2025 @06:52PM (#44677287)
In the US:

Ubiquiti, Cambium, probably not Tarana because that's way too expensive for a 1.5Mbps sub. Mikrotik radios are fairly rare here, but the routers and switches are everywhere.

Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by galaxy_gas on Thursday July 24, 2025 @08:24PM (#44677997)
Thats interesting ! Mikrotik routers and switches are very cheap, I wonder why they one product line is extremely common but the radios are rare rather than roughly equivalent spread ?
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by bcrl on Thursday July 24, 2025 @09:46PM (#44678554)
Mikrotik has not (yet?) gone down the path of shipping sector radios supporting massive MIMO (Multiple Input Multiple Output -- an 8x8 array can deliver 8 times as much data as 1 stream within the same channel size) as vendors like Cambium have. The additional capacity on tower sectors from additional streams combined with MU-MIMO (Multi-User MIMO that transmits to multiple subscriber radios at the same time based on the number of streams the transmitter supports combined with client radios that are typically 2x2) is a great way to gain capacity where spectrum is exhausted. Higher order QAM support like the new 12 bits per symbol modulation in 802.11be tends not to be so useful for WISPs as getting the SNR to the level required to support it tends to be is challenging, especially in 6 GHz spectrum where transmit power limitations require much higher gain antennas for client radios (at least here in Canada where EIRP is limited to 36dBm).

Mikrotik is still quite heavily used for their routers and switches among WISPs. They are the most affordable vendor for 100Gbps switches. Pity we don't have a better open source software stack for their hardware.

Ubiquiti is also actively neglecting the WISP market. Anything that isn't UniFi seems to be mostly abandoned these days.

Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by esseph on Thursday July 24, 2025 @09:18PM (#44678403)
Just generally not as reliable or as advanced as the competition for not much more, generally. They are doing some interesting work with LTE in Latvia though.
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by whiteboardr on Thursday July 24, 2025 @04:56PM (#44676014)
Hasn’t he heard of ravens? Much more reliable.
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by rchard2scout on Thursday July 24, 2025 @05:07PM (#44676152)
Yeah, but all they say is "nevermore".
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by acrophiliac on Thursday July 24, 2025 @05:14PM (#44676242)
Digression ... you must be using "wilderness" in it's colloquial form, because technically, if he's in a cabin he can't be in wilderness. Federally designated wilderness areas don't allow permanent human habitation.
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by BHSPitMonkey on Thursday July 24, 2025 @05:23PM (#44676372)
Furthermore, the planet we are on cannot possibly be in space. Space is mostly empty, has no breathable atmosphere, there are no trees or grocery stores there, etc.; Earth is quite the opposite.
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by gridder on Thursday July 24, 2025 @05:17PM (#44676292)
The cabin is located in the wilderness, not part of it, and it’s real wilderness, not a wilderness designated area
Re:Starlink is currently experiencing a service outage. Our ... by jackdawipper on Thursday July 24, 2025 @05:58PM (#44676809)
in my day we used pigeons