Electric cars produce far less brake dust pollution than combustion-engine cars

Re:Electric cars produce far less brake dust pollution than ... by m_fayer on Thursday July 24, 2025 @08:08AM (#44669686)

That same insight applies to regular hybrids, and yet Toyota’s hybrids are legendary for their durability. There’s a reason half the cabs where I live are Prius station wagons, and it’s not their efficiency, judging by how they’re driven.

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Re:Electric cars produce far less brake dust pollution than ... by bryanlarsen on Thursday July 24, 2025 @10:12AM (#44670925)

Consumer reports found that HEV's were the most reliable, and PHEV"s the least reliable. That's nonsensical, there's little difference between the two.

Toyota is the biggest seller of HEV's, Stellantis of PHEV. That's the difference. EV's on paper should be the most reliable, but Tesla is the biggest seller of those. If you want reliability, choose by brand rather than engine type.

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Re:Electric cars produce far less brake dust pollution than ... by pmg101 on Thursday July 24, 2025 @10:43AM (#44671316)

I was comparing a Hyundai Ioniq EV with a Hyundai Ioniq PHEV and was surprised to find more problems reported by the owners of the Ioniq EV.

Mostly issues with 12V battery, it seemed like.

In the end I bought a Stellantis EV so I probably deserve everything I get - but they are cheap!

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Re:Electric cars produce far less brake dust pollution than ... by seanmcdirmid on Saturday August 02, 2025 @12:14PM (#44768813)

12V batteries dying in EVs has been a consistent problem. I think it got better for Tesla when they moved from lead acid to lithium ion for the 12V (like the much bigger battery).

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Re:Electric cars produce far less brake dust pollution than ... by kube-system on Thursday July 24, 2025 @03:14PM (#44674850)

>Consumer reports found that HEV's were the most reliable, and PHEV"s the least reliable. That's nonsensical, there's little difference between the two.

Eh, it's not so much nonsensical, as it is that you're just misinterpreting the data.

This conversation here is specifically about powertrain reliability, but that isn't what consumer reports measures. They measure complaints about any feature on the vehicle, including ancillary accessories unrelated to the vehicle's ability to transport people.

But also as you point out, shitty engineering (Stellantis's specialty) is a bigger issue than any particular drivetrain type.

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