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Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by sharperguy on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @11:48AM (#44660556)
A better analogy would be a balaclava. Lots of legitimate uses but it's uncommon to see people wearing them day to day and is very popular with criminals. But we don't imagine we could ban balaclavas to prevent crime.
Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by fifticon on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @12:03PM (#44660725)
It depends on what you mean by 'ban'. In the country where I live (Denmark), they are very much banned, unless you can demonstrate your legitimate current use case for them. In particular, you are not allowed to wear them in public places where people gather or gather in groups. And 'beating up cops anonymously' is not an approved use case :-) The rule as I understand it, also covers [sic] extreme religious dress rules for women.

Here is the relevant section from our current laws: https://danskelove.dk/straffeloven/134b

Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by robertlagrant on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @12:14PM (#44660859)
I used to wear one as a kid in the UK in the winter. They weren't invented for crime.
Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by Y_Y on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @12:46PM (#44661247)
> They weren't invented for crime.

Not literally, but there was some criminally bad warfare going on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Balaclava

Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by robertlagrant on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @01:01PM (#44661423)
Knitwear is often a cause for conflict[0]!

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jersey

Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by sapphicsnail on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @07:23PM (#44665107)
I read the article and I don't see his it's connected. Maybe I missed something?
Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by PLenz on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @08:37PM (#44665601)
Jersey is another term for knitwear in English
Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by johnisgood on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @09:09PM (#44665795)
I thought in the US "Jersey" refers to t-shirts worn during American football or something like that? At least I have seen people saying "these are my Jerseys" and then pointing to their t-shirts worn during having played American football.
Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by toofy on Thursday July 24, 2025 @04:13AM (#44668279)
it is also that.

it’s is both slang for sports uniform (usually shirt) and also is a type of fabric material super common in clothing [0]

[0] https://fabricwholesaledirect.com/collections/jersey-knit-fa...

Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by johnisgood on Thursday July 24, 2025 @04:36AM (#44668421)
Thanks. I never thought the term "Jersey" ever referred to knitwear, to be honest.
Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by jolmg on Thursday July 24, 2025 @06:58AM (#44669247)
T-shirts are knit
Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by johnisgood on Thursday July 24, 2025 @08:11AM (#44669707)
What I am saying is that I have seen the term "knitwear" everywhere, and when I am looking for "knitwear", I am not looking for t-shirts or "jerseys", but those sweatshirts that look like this (or the like): https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1181/5370/files/knits_1_48....
Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by johnisgood on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @01:02PM (#44661435)
May I ask what it has to do with the mask?
Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by Y_Y on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @01:34PM (#44661809)
Since the British troops weren't properly kitted out for the cold weather lots of them were sent over balaclavas which had been knitted at home.
Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by johnisgood on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @02:29PM (#44662407)
Thanks, interesting.
Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by efreak on Thursday July 24, 2025 @05:30PM (#44676462)
Nothing. Balaclava is a location.
Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by db48x on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @06:49PM (#44664848)
Don’t forget about the Charge of the Light Brigade, commanded by the Earl of Cardigan. After the war he became famous and people copied the knit jumper he wore, naming it the cardigan. That’s two knit garments from the same battle.

Canon to the right of them, canon to the left of them canon in front of them volleyed and thundered. Stormed at with shot and shell boldly they rode and well, into the jaws of death into the mouth of hell rode the six hundred.

Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by olyjohn on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @04:48PM (#44663870)
I wear one when I ride my motorcycle. Keeps my neck warm, and keeps the cold air off my face. And helps keep the dust off my face when I'm off road. And adds an extra layer of protection. They are also nice when you borrow someone else's helmet. The GoKart places near me give them out to help keep rental helmets from getting nasty.
Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by ipaddr on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @12:22PM (#44660956)
Can you wear one for fashion?
Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by encom on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @01:28PM (#44661733)
Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by harimau777 on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @05:43PM (#44664354)
Are protests considered a legitimate use? If not, then that seems pretty problematic.
Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by justacrow on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @06:10PM (#44664563)
In Sweden at leasts, balaclavas and other wearables "preventing identification" is specifically illegal _at_ protests. From what I remember the danish case is similar.
Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by Wistar on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @10:28PM (#44666244)
I wear one for taking photos of reflective objects, particularly car interiors. Sure minimizes retouching my stupid face out of reflections. Black cloth gloves, too.
Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by thenthenthen on Thursday July 24, 2025 @08:06AM (#44669671)
Gathering in groups in public? Thats wild, thats been banned since many years in many Dutch major cities. (“samenscholingsverbod”)
Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by saaaaaam on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @12:05PM (#44660756)
Actually, the Irish government considered exactly that! I'm not sure if they moved forward with it though.

And Southend in England tried to do the same (but failed...)

Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by Spooky23 on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @08:16PM (#44665495)
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Re:Cops say criminals use a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS – I... by aredox on Thursday July 24, 2025 @02:58AM (#44667764)
But if the police asks you to remove your balaclava, you can only do so.