Harvard Students in Cheating Scandal Say Collaboration Was Accepted

Re:Harvard Students in Cheating Scandal Say Collaboration Wa... by oob205 on Saturday September 01, 2012 @03:46PM (#4464864)

Um..yes. Study groups or websites are online resources. So is facebook. If a student posts the questions online and starts discussions with anonymous posters, or even reads relevant discussions posted online before the test, how is that different from discussing with one another. There are plenty of ways to have a test that explicitly prevents collaboration. This professor clearly did not try.

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Re:Harvard Students in Cheating Scandal Say Collaboration Wa... by mbreese on Saturday September 01, 2012 @04:16PM (#4464978)

There is a fundamental difference between using online resources to find an answer to a question and collaborating with others to find the same answer. Part of the grade is based on how well you can find the answers, not how well your collective group can.

If the test is open book, open Internet, that doesn't mean you can ask your friends on Facebook for help, just because Facebook is on the Internet.

I think that the class was likely poorly designed, but that doesn't mean that the students are all in the clear.

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Re:Harvard Students in Cheating Scandal Say Collaboration Wa... by waterlesscloud on Saturday September 01, 2012 @04:24PM (#4465003)

It's not even really about how well you can find the answers, it's more about what you'll learn while you're searching for and thinking about the answers.

That process is completely cut short if you just copy someone else's answer.

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Re:Harvard Students in Cheating Scandal Say Collaboration Wa... by oob205 on Sunday September 02, 2012 @12:06AM (#4466108)

I dont think students are all in the clear in the least bit. I just happen to believe that permitting online resources implies permitting collaboration, as the internet is a tool for collaboration as much as it is a tool for pure research. As far as I'm concerned, it a test is open internet, then it's de facto collaboration permitted.

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Re:Harvard Students in Cheating Scandal Say Collaboration Wa... by tlrobinson on Sunday September 02, 2012 @05:05AM (#4466602)

In general I agree, but the professor explicitly told them not to discuss the test with each other.

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Re:Harvard Students in Cheating Scandal Say Collaboration Wa... by trhtrsh on Saturday September 01, 2012 @04:14PM (#4464974)

This is a case of the changing times leading to miscommunication.

The implied intent of the rule is that READ-ONLY NON-INTERACTIVE Internet use was permitted. To today's students, the Internet is a READ-WRITE INTERACTIVE tool, unless explicitly stated otherwise.

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Re:Harvard Students in Cheating Scandal Say Collaboration Wa... by pbhjpbhj on Saturday September 01, 2012 @06:16PM (#4465324)

>The implied intent of the rule //

Can you quote the rule because in the article it appears that the intent of the rule was that above all you couldn't interact with other students [on the course] to complete the work but as long as you kept to that rule then general internet resources were fine to use?

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Re:Harvard Students in Cheating Scandal Say Collaboration Wa... by tlrobinson on Saturday September 01, 2012 @04:12PM (#4464968)

If the students couldn't figure out how to use online resources without collaborating with each other they don't belong at Harvard.

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Re:Harvard Students in Cheating Scandal Say Collaboration Wa... by MisterMerkin on Saturday September 01, 2012 @10:53PM (#4465964)

Do you really believe that the professor said they are not allowed to consult each other in person but may consult each other online?

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