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Re:Beyond Meat Fights for Survival by PaulHoule on Sunday July 20, 2025 @03:19PM (#44628426)
I also don't see it as much better than Boca Burgers or Quorn or many other earlier generation products never mind tofu, tempeh, seitan all of which can be great on a bed of rice or as sandwich fillers.

Ecologist Howard Odum developed a system of environmental accounting based on tracing energy back to the sun

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergy

a calorie of vegetarian food is estimated to require 200,000 calories worth of sunlight when you factor in energy to drive the wind, make rain, all of that.

Invariably there is part of a product or service that you can't account for in detail so you take the remaining dollar cost and multiply it by the emergy/$ ratio for the economy as a whole.

Although you can argue a "cheap" product has a price that is subsidized or doesn't represent externalities, this leads to the corollary that an outrageously expensive product is not green because the money is a license for somebody to do things that impact the environment be it the employees driving around in a big-ass pickup truck or the executives or investors flying in private jets.

There's that and there's also the fact that most people's main objection to meat substitutes is high cost.

Re:Beyond Meat Fights for Survival by HDThoreaun on Wednesday July 23, 2025 @08:04AM (#44658260)
Quorn is awful. I pray to never be subjected to it again. Impossible is amazing in comparison.