Re:Ask HN: Is Google still a cool place to work?
by tytso on Saturday September 01, 2012 @01:26AM
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I had widespread engineering support, actually
From what I saw on the engineering-wide mailing list, where you told people who had many more years of engineering experience than you that they were full of sh*t, I'm sorry to say, no sir, you didn't have widespread engineering support.
Re:Ask HN: Is Google still a cool place to work?
by michaelochurch on Saturday September 01, 2012 @07:14AM
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We're talking about two different times. The RGI had a lot of support, and everyone who knew about it knew that it was the right way to go. That was in late July/early August before management started cracking down on internal dissent (the first Real Names PIPs were getting served around late August/early September).
Eng-misc went to hell about a month after that. By that point, it was obvious that RGI was going to fail due to executive pressure and that higher-ups were cracking down on internal dissent, so only the loyalists were even speaking up.
Re:Ask HN: Is Google still a cool place to work?
by sAasdasfd on Friday August 31, 2012 @06:33PM
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So what are you doing nowadays, anyway?
Re:Ask HN: Is Google still a cool place to work?
by michaelochurch on Friday August 31, 2012 @08:12PM
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I stopped telling people where I work after Google. (Someone from Google tried to fuck up my next job, and Google refused to investigate. That's the main reason I hate Google's management. If they'd done their professional duty and investigated and fired the rat bastard, I'd have some respect for them.) But I'm doing well. Working on a side project to release this card game (Ambition) into the wild. The game rules are here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1S7lsZKzHuuhoTb2Wj_L3zrhH...
I had widespread engineering support, actually. The problem was that (a) the people managing that product didn't understand the importance of quality in content, and (b) they were under obscene deadlines (which almost certainly wasn;'t their fault).
What really kicked me in the shins was when an executive, pissed off that people on his team agreed with what I was saying being the right way to go, threatened to damage my Perf ratings. My manager promised to protect me (he promised to "peg" me to 3.3-3.4, which is decent) and didn't deliver. After that, I started looking for transfer opportunities, because I'd caught my manager in a few lies but that was a big one, and I just couldn't trust my manager after that.
It turned out to be easier to get a job outside of the company, so I did.