> Yeah, who gets to decide whats too far?

The ruling ethnic group, of course, as is tradition.

From what I can tell, only one country in the world has free speech. Actual free speech. USA.

Thanks for this mate, REALLY needed this laugh on this fine end-of-grinding-workweek… Fantastic!!

Its dying fast. The Late Show was just cancelled because it was a massive thorn to the POTUS.

I love a good “POTUS” conspiracy as much as the next guy but The Late Show cancelation is a simple money game, the show was bleeeding money. If the show was profitable the chance of it being cancelled are same as me dating Beyonce

Technically yes, but the money game was CBS losing a massive lawsuit to POTUS.

I would agree with this if this was factual, the money cbs paid via 60 minutes nonsense is same if you were file a dime for something you did today. so not “massive” but whatever is the exact opposite of massive

The show itself was losing viewership cause who the F watches late night TV these days?

is said late night TV actually expensive though? they have a payong audience, and the whole thing is an ad for whoever is selling a book or movie release.

whats gonna replace that slot that people are gonna watch? a blank screen?

if you have a car that is a money pit you and your family keep bleeding money on to make repairs, would you keep making repairs or get another car? all of TV is a simple money game, shows get canceled, new ones spruce up, they get canceled, some are super successful but run their course, others stink from the get-go. what is going to replace the late show? not sure but whatever it does it better make money for cbs or the same faith awaits it

Interesting, do you have a source for that claim? Mallen Baker [1] says it was gaining viewers.

[1]: https://youtu.be/KMLZAE4okWs

It's both. A merger is happening in two weeks and this helps. It was going off of the air in a year or two anyways. Easy way to give Trump a win.

I don't know what your definition of "actual" free speech is but there are certainly limits to free speech even in the US[0].

And those are just explicit limits. Try supporting Palestine on a college campus or mentioning women or gay people in any government funded scientific publication, or finding a book portraying pro-LGBT content in a library or a school curriculum that portrays slavery in a way that "makes white people feel victimized" in the South.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exce...

Isn't freedom of speech just "you're allowed to say whatever you want", and not "you're entitled to the use of taxpayer dollars to help distribute your message" or "you're entitled to have the government force children to read your message"?

having a green card or visa stripped because you said something is not "having the government force children to read your message"

The limits to speech (in USA) depends (roughly) on if it's intended to incite imminent lawless action and is likely to do so.

Actual speech is communicating ideas or opinions, even distasteful or unpopular ones. The fact that university morons throw a riot if anyone disagrees with them (many such cases), does not affect your right to do so.

Denmark passed a law in 2023 that makes public burning, tearing, stepping on, or defiling holy texts illegal. It's informally called the Quran Law, because everyone knows who doesn't tolerate any criticism of their religion at all. This is one of many limits on speech in Denmark. In my view, speech is either free or it isn't, hence my argument that only USA has free speech.

thats a historical view, but not the most useful now that the second american revolution has happened.

things that lightly annoyed the president is now the decider between legal and illegal speech in the US, and the punishment is death, because nothing the president does that could be part of their regular responsibilities like talking to secret service assasins, can be considered in court proceedings.

Are the assassins in the room with us right now?

Supporting Palestine would get you deported to El Salvador (or worse) :)

> There's a similar issue with free speech - the moment you ban certain speech the door to banning your political opposition opens.

There is TONS of speech that is banned, even in America. There isn't a single place on the planet that has no limits on speech.

That’s the tricky bit.