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Re:ICE Is Getting Unprecedented Access to Medicaid Data by xdennis on Friday July 18, 2025 @01:24PM (#44607443)
There are some differences for illegal immigrants, though. For example they don't have the right to due process under expedited removal (passed by Bill Clinton in 1996).
Re:ICE Is Getting Unprecedented Access to Medicaid Data by wombatpm on Friday July 18, 2025 @01:54PM (#44607813)
How do you prove you are not an illegal immigrant when picked up off the street? Surely there must be some due process around the determination of your illegal status.
Re:ICE Is Getting Unprecedented Access to Medicaid Data by jahewson on Friday July 18, 2025 @03:24PM (#44608790)
That’s not true. They have the right to due process, as enshrined in the constitution. Clinton did not suspend that right he merely limited specific legal options available.
Re:ICE Is Getting Unprecedented Access to Medicaid Data by empath75 on Friday July 18, 2025 @01:42PM (#44607675)
This is a little misleading. Under Clinton, they could basically just turn them around at a port of entry. Eventually (2004) this was expanded to people within 100 miles of a border within 2 weeks of entering the country, and then in 2020 they _dramatically_ expanded this to people anyone who has been here for less than 2 years, and that has not been tested in court, really.

This is sort of a classic example of a slippery slope, FWIW. As soon as you deny anybody due process, the category of people that applies to will just constantly expand.

Now, there's basically nothing stopping immigration officials from immediately deporting anybody they want, citizen, non-citizen, illegal or legal immigrant.

Re:ICE Is Getting Unprecedented Access to Medicaid Data by jahewson on Friday July 18, 2025 @03:33PM (#44608891)
> Now, there's basically nothing stopping immigration officials from immediately deporting anybody they want, citizen, non-citizen, illegal or legal immigrant.

What nonsense. We have the courts. There must be a valid determination made that a person entered illegally for expedited deportation to apply. Due process applies to that determination - if it is not made correctly then sue. But more importantly why on earth would it not be made correctly? If you can’t prove that you’re a US citizen then something is very wrong.

Re:ICE Is Getting Unprecedented Access to Medicaid Data by friendlyasparag on Friday July 18, 2025 @03:40PM (#44608959)
It’s tricky to argue it in court if you have already been deported to a prison in a foreign country.
Re:ICE Is Getting Unprecedented Access to Medicaid Data by BoiledCabbage on Friday July 18, 2025 @11:13PM (#44612248)
> There must be a valid determination made that a person entered illegally for expedited deportation to apply.

Are you arguing about the way it should be or making a statement about the way things currently are?