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Re:People kept working, became healthier while on basic inco... by david-gpu on Thursday July 17, 2025 @08:33PM (#44599907)
> Extrapolating that back to providing a safety net to 20-40yo's just seems to miss everything about UBI - unless it's a 'I didn't have this, so no one else should' position?

Quite the opposite. I basically retired at 40. A few of my coworkers did the same. Most people, when given the means to quit working, choose to retire.

Most people don't retire at age X because they have reached age X, they do it because they finally are eligible for a pension.

Re:People kept working, became healthier while on basic inco... by anonzzzies on Thursday July 17, 2025 @09:46PM (#44600345)
Most my friends and myself could retire after the 90s Internet boom: we all sold. Most before 30. No one did as its boring. Travelling gets boring: everything I see rich people typically do I still find boring now in my 50s and I could've done all of that for the past 25+ years. I am quite sure I will never stop working and this seems the same for my friend group. I am not saying life satisfaction comes from work necessarily, but at least the people I call friends have a drive to produce things and feel validation and satisfaction from that: in the west that validation is usually money and recognition from peers and large groups of strangers.

But yeah, I guess many people dont want to work because their options for work suck. It is not that many of those their contribution is not basically 0 or negative now as it is and with robots/ai coming in the coming 50 years, I rather have them living a human life with social housing, free playstations and basic income instead of slaving away at something useless just because of some weird idea that any work is better than no work to spend their short life on.

Re:People kept working, became healthier while on basic inco... by Jedd on Thursday July 17, 2025 @09:36PM (#44600288)
> Quite the opposite. I basically retired at 40. A few of my coworkers did the same.

You do get that's anecdotal, right?

And that a basic income will mean you don't die from starvation, but won't give you the kind of comfortable lifestyle that you and a few of your ex-coworkers presumably scored from some happenstance in your employment arc, right?

And that there's lots of research about how 'most people' do not in fact stop working, at least within the confines of the trials done, right?

Re:People kept working, became healthier while on basic inco... by wat10000 on Thursday July 17, 2025 @11:29PM (#44600913)
People usually voluntarily retire when they have the resources to maintain their lifestyle. Basic income wouldn’t be nearly as much as a pension, so that wouldn’t really apply. And taking a pension means you have to quit, whereas a basic income pays you even if you keep working. The comparison really doesn’t seem to work.
Re:People kept working, became healthier while on basic inco... by stouset on Thursday July 17, 2025 @08:50PM (#44600025)
> I basically retired at 40.

I’m going to go out on a limb here and guess your monthly spending exceeds $10-20k and is probably well north of $100k.

Re:People kept working, became healthier while on basic inco... by david-gpu on Friday July 18, 2025 @08:33AM (#44603985)
Wrong by a large factor. We have a very modest lifestyle.