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Re:Gmail/Google starts disabling features unless you agree t... by danpalmer on Thursday July 17, 2025 @08:27AM (#44592543)
Disclaimer, I work at Google, but I recommend reading the ToS for Google consumer and business services, and I believe the short version of the policies on this have been documented on the Google blog several times. I can't comment on the policy directly, but encourage you to research it, there's a pretty straightforward answer.

Separately, the industry standard elsewhere appears to be that if you're a free user your data is used for training, and if you're a paying user it's not.

Re:Gmail/Google starts disabling features unless you agree t... by darthcloud on Thursday July 17, 2025 @08:35AM (#44592614)
It's so straightforward that you can't comment on it without risking retaliation?
Re:Gmail/Google starts disabling features unless you agree t... by blitzar on Thursday July 17, 2025 @09:16AM (#44593057)
Re:Gmail/Google starts disabling features unless you agree t... by selcuka on Thursday July 17, 2025 @08:41AM (#44592677)
I am either reading the wrong ToS, or not getting it [1]:

    Permission to use your content
    [...]
    This license is for the limited purpose of:
    [...]
    - developing new technologies and services for Google consistent with these terms
The last item sounds like Google can use my content to train an LLM, no?

[1] https://policies.google.com/terms?hl=en-US#toc-content

Re:Gmail/Google starts disabling features unless you agree t... by danpalmer on Monday July 21, 2025 @09:15PM (#44642281)
Do you have a free or paid account? What are the terms for paid accounts?
Re:Gmail/Google starts disabling features unless you agree t... by selcuka on Tuesday July 22, 2025 @08:00PM (#44654338)
I had assumed that the GP comment [1] was about both paid and free accounts.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44592213