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Re:Does Showing Seconds in the System Tray Use More Power? by pavel_lishin on Sunday July 13, 2025 @02:02PM (#44552203)
> If, as tested, this setting makes a double-digit percentage difference, I'm glad Microsoft exposes it in the UI.

I'd rather them write more performant code. This feels like your car having the option to burn motor oil to show a more precise clock on the dash; you don't get kudos for adding an off-switch for that.

Re:Does Showing Seconds in the System Tray Use More Power? by minitech on Sunday July 13, 2025 @02:05PM (#44552229)
> I'd rather them write more performant code.

In keeping with the theme of the comment you're replying to, writing better-performing code and providing performance options are not mutually exclusive. Both are good ideas.

> This feels like your car having the option to burn motor oil to show a more precise clock on the dash; you don't get kudos for adding an off-switch for that.

(Sounds more like you're arguing that it should be forced off instead of being an option? Reasonable take in this case, but not the same argument.)

Re:Does Showing Seconds in the System Tray Use More Power? by jjj123 on Sunday July 13, 2025 @02:16PM (#44552306)
No, I think they’re arguing that showing seconds in the system tray shouldn’t be so inefficient that turning it off gives back double-digit percentage energy savings.

I think we all agree there needs to be some additional power draw for the seconds feature, but it’s unclear how much power is truly necessary vs this just being a poor implementation.

Re:Does Showing Seconds in the System Tray Use More Power? by ants_everywhere on Sunday July 13, 2025 @03:12PM (#44552704)
there's a dramatic increase in how frequently you interrupt the CPU to update the display. That is true at the OS level no matter how efficient you make the second display code.
Re:Does Showing Seconds in the System Tray Use More Power? by troupo on Monday July 14, 2025 @03:26AM (#44557345)
How about web views throughout the OS? The new start menu written in React?

There's an ungodly amount of CPU and GPU spikes throughout the OS which make the "omg seconds" invisible in comparison

Re:Does Showing Seconds in the System Tray Use More Power? by morganherlocker on Sunday July 13, 2025 @02:19PM (#44552326)
It shouldn't take any noticable power/cycles to accomplish this task. Having flags for "performance" littered through the codebase and UI is a classic failure mode that leads to a janky slow base performance. "Do always and inhibit when not needed".
Re:Does Showing Seconds in the System Tray Use More Power? by criddell on Sunday July 13, 2025 @02:50PM (#44552535)
> I'd rather them write more performant code.

My expectations of Microsoft software aren't terribly high. I'd say Windows is performant (ie it works about as well as I expect).

Re:Does Showing Seconds in the System Tray Use More Power? by orangecat on Sunday July 13, 2025 @02:30PM (#44552402)
This feels like your car having the option to burn motor oil to show a more precise clock on the dash

I actively don't want to see seconds; the constant updating is distracting. It should be an option even if there were no energy impact. (Ditto for terminal cursor blinking).

Re:Does Showing Seconds in the System Tray Use More Power? by GLdRH on Sunday July 13, 2025 @03:15PM (#44552723)
Doesn't the blinking cursor tell you it's ready for input and not still running the previous command? Seems useful.
Re:Does Showing Seconds in the System Tray Use More Power? by eviks on Sunday July 13, 2025 @09:35PM (#44555579)
There are better shape/color alternatives for that
Re:Does Showing Seconds in the System Tray Use More Power? by lucb1e on Sunday July 13, 2025 @09:39PM (#44555612)
I have cursor blinking off anywhere I can. The prompt is what tells me I can type something, or in a GUI program, you can always type if there is a cursor no matter if it's solid or blinking. At least, that's my experience, perhaps you're familiar with another system or piece of software where the blinking is what tells you that you can enter something?
Re:Does Showing Seconds in the System Tray Use More Power? by p_ing on Sunday July 13, 2025 @02:40PM (#44552473)
...Did you not see that it is an option, off by default?
Re:Does Showing Seconds in the System Tray Use More Power? by aksss on Sunday July 13, 2025 @02:15PM (#44552293)
Better analogy would be reducing your MPGs (fuel efficiency) to show a more precise clock, and arguably we all make that sacrifice to get CarPlay.

Energy isn’t free.

Even if they wrote more performant code, it would just mean less relative loss of energy to show seconds but still loss compared to not showing seconds.

Re:Does Showing Seconds in the System Tray Use More Power? by pavel_lishin on Sunday July 13, 2025 @02:22PM (#44552343)
Of course it's not free - TANSTAAFL - but it should certainly not increase energy consumption by 13%!
Re:Does Showing Seconds in the System Tray Use More Power? by daveoc64 on Sunday July 13, 2025 @04:55PM (#44553650)
It's really an on switch.

The feature is off by default in Windows 11 and was not offered in any previous non-beta Windows version.

Re:Does Showing Seconds in the System Tray Use More Power? by anonymars on Sunday July 13, 2025 @06:34PM (#44554405)
But you could open the clock flyout and see it on demand. Now it's all-or-nothing (unless they changed it, again)

(Have I mentioned how much I loathe Windows 11?)